Lulzsec:Anonymous

[00streetfighter]

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/LulzSec

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/TeaMp0isoN

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Anonymous_%28group%29

Anybody else follow this stuff? It's always been very intriguing to me how these groups operate and how talented they are.

Maybe I grew up in the internet age but nevertheless, these groups are a serious threat to nations world wide.

Its very internet "meme" so to speak, but they definitely got my attention. Anyone else?

 

[SM0KE]

Hope you enjoyed em while they lasted.

16 Suspected 'Anonymous' Hackers Arrested in Nationwide Sweep - FoxNews.com

 

[MissionMan]

it baffles me the age and talent of some of the people involved in that. at the same time, lets be honest... they have absolutely no lives. i have better things to do than sit in my parents basement 24hrs a day learning the ins and outs of software/hardware.

why dont these dudes get actual jobs , with the knowledge they have they could make big $ helping to secure companies cyber assets.

 

[thomas91169]

Hope you enjoyed em while they lasted.

16 Suspected 'Anonymous' Hackers Arrested in Nationwide Sweep - FoxNews.com

Lol if thats the same news story i read yesterday, they confiscated one (1) laptop out of the whole mess. Wow, one laptop. I think they quoted one of the agents as saying "they messed with fire and got burned", i think the fbi has absolutely no ****ing clue how powerful these groups are. They hack for fun, its a competition to them and nothing personal against the companies they hack (aside from Sony). Theyre probably the reason the fed is missing $9,000,000,000 that they cant account for, someone got in and ****ed with the comma seperators.

 

[cj3113]

The feds are kidding themselves if they believe that arresting 16 people changes anything.

 

[Satyr]

Theyre probably the reason the fed is missing $9,000,000,000 that they cant account for, someone got in and ****ed with the comma seperators.

:lol:
Sadly, this is very possible.

 

[astrodudepsu]

if they arrested the right people, they will give those people jobs. They will not serve jail time.

 

[TRXboy]

why dont these dudes get actual jobs , with the knowledge they have they could make big $ helping to secure companies cyber assets.

if they arrested the right people, they will give those people jobs. They will not serve jail time.

This.

 

[346CamaroSS]

if they arrested the right people, they will give those people jobs. They will not serve jail time.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Hasn't anyone seen 'Catch Me If You Can'?

 

[usmcrebel]

I am going to try and quote a cyber security specialist i know when i was talking to him about some of these groups.

"these cyber "threats" can do little more than childs play in the grand scheme of things...most of them are children who picked up a hobby and are more of a nuisance than a threat. when your biggest accomplishment is email passwords and credit card hacking you are a flea on the spectrum of bugs....dangerous to some individuals and that's about it"

His spill was much longer but that is the jist of it.

 

[Kiohtee]

Wait for the retaliation hack. We're screwed! :cryying:

 

[SciFiHiFi]

Anybody else follow this stuff? It's always been very intriguing to me how these groups operate and how talented they are.

Interesting stuff no doubt. As far as the talent goes, most of their attacks aren't too impressive from a technical perspective. I haven't followed every move but it seems like they are exploiting known vulnerabilities and misconfiguration. I don't see them as some elite group who is discovering new vulnerabilities and exploits.

 

[SciFiHiFi]

I am going to try and quote a cyber security specialist i know when i was talking to him about some of these groups.

"these cyber "threats" can do little more than childs play in the grand scheme of things...most of them are children who picked up a hobby and are more of a nuisance than a threat. when your biggest accomplishment is email passwords and credit card hacking you are a flea on the spectrum of bugs....dangerous to some individuals and that's about it"

His spill was much longer but that is the jist of it.

I would disagree about nuisance vs threat. Anonymous targets HB Gary and a week or two later the CEO is resigning in embarrassment. That is much more of a threat than a nuisance, at least to that particular group of people.

 

[usmcrebel]

I would disagree about nuisance vs threat. Anonymous targets HB Gary and a week or two later the CEO is resigning in embarrassment. That is much more of a threat than a nuisance, at least to that particular group of people.

I tend to believe him over many others...they play childish games. They are throwing a temper tantrum...NOt saying what they do is right or wrong, but i can assure you with some of the programmers/ "hackers" i know breaking credit card encryption and hacking into a companies database is simplistic. The guys that do this "professionally" you never hear of, and you never know they were there or what they left or took.
these retaliation groups are children in that world. You think they are good, well think about the guy that taught them and who taught them.

 

[SciFiHiFi]

^

You think they are good, well think about the guy that taught them and who taught them.

As far as the talent goes, most of their attacks aren't too impressive from a technical perspective. I haven't followed every move but it seems like they are exploiting known vulnerabilities and misconfiguration. I don't see them as some elite group who is discovering new vulnerabilities and exploits.

 

[oldmodman]

I will worry a lot more about the Chinese Colleges that turn out class after class of skilled, motivated hackers whose job it is to attack the USA and the EU than I will worry about these Bozos.

Besides, if you want to see what the next thing to suffer an "attack" will be just browse 4chan.

 

[virginiafiveo]

an old hacker friend of mine said there is only one way to not get hacked....he unplugged my computer. problem solved.

as he stated it, it only takes a fraction of information about a system or software being run to exploit them, regardless of who they are. yes, this includes the government. all software has vulnerabilities. if you can transmit and receive data from a personal computer, server, netbook, phone, etc. you can be hacked in one form or another. most of these entities are basically a bunch of script kiddies, which is why they will eventually be caught. they have no true understanding of how the full spectrum hacker really works. in other words, most of these are kids who do ddos attacks against front end servers that the public sees. not an incredibly difficult task. many large companies have very vulnerable networks, not because their IT guys are competent enough to minimize risks and fail overs, but because they have to keep things open and available for the never-ending need of the good idea fairy and users. as a side note, as stated above, if some of those who were apprehended are smart enough, they will not server jail time. I have a friend, who in my younger days in high school, hacked into an FBI server. it happened to be a mindless file server with nothing real good on it. but he did it. from a highschool computer using a POS Mac (I'm talking the really old clean colored CRT/CPU all in one) it took the FBI 5 weeks to narrow it down and find him. he served 0 time in Jail. upon graduation from highschool he was employed as an intern after having his way through MIT paid for. I'm assuming by the GOV because he sucked at regular school and his parents didn't have a pot to piss in. incredibly smart kid with computers. he just got them. I have no idea where he is now, I haven't spoken to him in about 4 years.

 

[Planter]

I am going to try and quote a cyber security specialist i know when i was talking to him about some of these groups.

"these cyber "threats" can do little more than childs play in the grand scheme of things...most of them are children who picked up a hobby and are more of a nuisance than a threat. when your biggest accomplishment is email passwords and credit card hacking you are a flea on the spectrum of bugs....dangerous to some individuals and that's about it"

His spill was much longer but that is the jist of it.

underestimating a group like Anonymous is foolish. your friend the cyberspecialist, fails to see and consider the implications of what this group can do.

If they ever target Wall Street's computers and servers, and succeed, think of the ****ing chaos they could throw this country in. They could shut down the entire country's financial sector just like they did Sony's Playstation Network. I'm surprised they haven't targeted Wall Street, Oil Speculators and Oil Companies yet.

they could bring this country's transportation to a halt by hitting all the airline sites, greyhound sites, train sites.

 

[dooberGN]

underestimating a group like Anonymous is foolish. your friend the cyberspecialist, fails to see and consider the implications of what this group can do.

If they ever target Wall Street's computers and servers, and succeed, think of the ****ing chaos they could throw this country in. They could shut down the entire country's financial sector just like they did Sony's Playstation Network. I'm surprised they haven't targeted Wall Street, Oil Speculators and Oil Companies yet.

they could bring this country's transportation to a halt by hitting all the airline sites, greyhound sites, train sites.

Bruce Willis would find them and **** them up.

 

[virginiafiveo]

Bruce Willis would find them and **** them up.

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