Laguna Cliffs Marriott Wedding Night Bad Experience...Read this!

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6/5/13



So most of you know that I am a Helicopter Flight Instructor, but my other 9-5 style job is that I manage a P.F Changs here in Southern California. That being said my whole goal is to make everyone that comes in happy and make them want to come back again...so I know what customer service is like. Well my wife and I recently got married and had a horrible experience at the Marriott...I wasn't going to write the GM a letter, but after thinking about it a while I decided I should...so this is what I am sending him...read it all, because it paints the perfect picture of everything that happened, even word-for-word!! You may think I'm being a whiner about this, but this was our wedding night and they screwed the stay up...(not to mention it was quite expensive)

P.S. When I spoke with the person who booked the room for us they let me know that the "special late checkout time" was 1PM.


I am writing you to tell you about a recent stay we had at your hotel, it is a little long but please read it in length. My wife and I were recently married on April 12th, 2013 at Talega Golf Course in San Clemente. For a while we were looking into and deciding what hotel to stay at on the night of our wedding. As you know there are many options we had to choose from in regards to staying at a nice hotel on our wedding night. We finally decided to stay at your hotel because of one sole reason; the Honeymoon Package included a “Special Late Checkout.” The additional champagne, strawberries and $30 room service credit were just a slight added bonus since all the other hotels we looked in to included these same amenities for staying there on our wedding night. We knew we would be up early in the morning and going all day and night for our wedding festivities, and then had a red-eye flight for our honeymoon, so we wanted to stay somewhere that we could sleep in, get up later and enjoy leaving later than normal. I even confirmed all of this when I called and made a reservation with a specialist and they notified me that late checkout was a big added advantage and that we were making the right choice…this was back in January.

Fast forward to our wedding day…up very early in the morning, have an amazing wedding, so happy, and arriving at your hotel around 10:30PM. Your staff was very kind and welcoming when we arrived and gave us many congratulations. Your Assistant Manager checked us in, notified us of the $30 credit certificate and where our room was. We got to our room, received the champagne and strawberries and enjoyed them while sitting on the balcony and re-reading each other’s vows. We stayed up late, watched T.V., and fell asleep happy and worry-free.

That morning we get woken up to a loud knock on our door, I look at the clock, it says 9:00AM. I assume it’s someone “Ding-dong ditching,” until I hear another loud knock. We have the “Do Not Disturb” card on the door so I get up wondering what is going on. I answer the door and a female Marriot employee looks at me and says “Oh you’re still here? Check out is at 11.” I said “Okay thank you?” wondering why this was said to me at 9AM, why this even occurred, and that she must not know we have a special late checkout. My wife and I try to go back to sleep and as we almost are, we get another loud knock on our door at 9:45AM. My wife is starting to get bothered, so she gets up and answers the door. Another employee says to her “Hi, checkout is at 11AM, can I check your mini-bar?” To which my wife, totally confused, says, “No, not right now, we are trying to sleep.” So she gets back in bed, and at this point we can’t go back to sleep because we had been woken twice and aren’t very happy. Our room service breakfast comes in at 10:30AM which was something we were happy to see. Shortly after, as my wife is in the shower, I hear another loud knock on the door at 10:55AM this time. I answer the door and a male employee says to me, “Hi, are you staying another night with us or checking out today?” I reply “checking out today,” which then prompts him to say, “Okay great, well check out is at 11AM.” I reply, “I don’t think for us, we have a special late checkout in our package.” He looks at me confused and says, “Um, oh, okay,” and leaves. I close the door, tell my wife what happens and am not happy at all. I call the front desk and ask the lady who answers what time checkout is, and she notifies me that it’s at 11AM; I then tell her that we have a special late checkout with the package we got and ask her what time our special late checkout is to which she replies, “I’m sorry sir, we aren’t allowing late checkouts today because we are at full capacity, but we will be more than happy to store your luggage and give you keys to the pool.” At this point I am completely dumbfounded and disgusted. Even so I say politely, “Okay thank you.”

I tell my wife immediately about this…so we have to suddenly scramble to get all our stuff together. Since we were dropped off by a limo the night before, her parents were going to be dropping off a car for us around 12:30-1:00PM for us to take to the airport. So she gets on the phone immediately and calls them, tells them what happened, and then tells me, “They were at breakfast and literally had to pay and leave in the middle of it to come here immediately, the sounded very unhappy with the hotel is doing to us.”

Her parents arrive shortly after (around 11:45AM) with the car and meet us inside; they are just as unhappy as we are. Now I manage a very nice restaurant, so I am very good at keeping my cool and a level-head, but I also know exactly what customer service should be like, especially when we’ve dropped the ball when it comes to a guest. On top of that, I will never let a guest leave our restaurant unhappy…no matter what, I want them to come back again. This in mind, all four of us go up to the front desk, lo and behold your Assistant Manager who checked us in last night is there and we go to speak to her. We tell her exactly what happened; about how many times employees came knocked on our door, why we booked the room, that we didn’t get a late checkout, and that we even had to call ourselves to be find out that they weren’t allowing late checkouts that day. She apologizes and said people shouldn’t be knocking on our door and that she will take a look at our bill. She then notifies us that she will take off the $60 room service charge for the inconvenience. I told her that we had given the $30 voucher to the room service gentleman so that basically wasn’t doing much for us, and that technically, we didn’t even receive what all we had purchased in our honeymoon package (which costs more than a normal nights stay). She then proceeds to say that “Well $60 is going to be taken off the whole bill after the room service voucher, and I feel that I am doing a lot to accommodate you, especially since you received free champagne and strawberries as well.” I told her that I didn’t care about the champagne and strawberries, that I could have received that at any hotel I stayed at and that the sole reason we purchased the package was because of the special late checkout and that the package even cost more money because of those amenities. She then proceeded to tell us “Well technically it’s almost noon so you pretty much did receive a late checkout.” This dug the dagger a little deeper into our sides, but we never once raised our voice in spite of it. So I asked her (keeping in mind what I may have done if an issue occurred in my restaurant), “So you think that taking $60 off my credit card is enough to make up for this?” To which she replies “Yes, I’m sorry this happened sir, but I feel I’m doing a lot.” So my mother-in-law asks for her name, your (the GM’s) card, and notifies her about the fact that we have many friends getting married in the next year and we will make sure they do not stay at your hotel.

Overall this whole experience was just pitiful in the end; it started great and ended horribly. Not only am I disgusted by the fact that this all occurred on our wedding night and to begin our honeymoon, but it was supposed to be an extremely special occasion as this night only happens once in our life. On top of that, we all felt like your manager didn’t even care about what happened to us and in general just wanted to get us out of the hotel to get to the next guest. It was also obvious that because your hotel is busy and at full capacity that, to her, we were just another guest and us not being happy wasn’t going to hurt your company. This was the biggest night of our lives that went so amazing, only to be completely let down by your hotel.

I am writing this to you to notify you personally of the situation to see if you can remedy it first, because when a problem occurs in my restaurant I like to solve it for the guest instead of having it go to other lengths. In addition to what happened I also compared my credit card bill to my bill received upon checkout and I never had the $30 room service credit applied to my bill as only the $60 room service charge was removed, so even what was going to be done as said by your Manager, was not This has left a bad taste in my mouth since we returned from the honeymoon a few days ago, and I wanted to sit on it and think about it, but it still has not calmed me down about the experience.
 
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Seems like a legit complaint to me. I'd be pretty pissed, too.

Good luck getting it resolved.
 

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Why is your problem they were at full capacity? When your restaurant gets full do you go table to table hurrying people along? That's AWFUL PR....

That would have angered me to no end, but to do it multiple times? I commend you for keeping your cool.

That's a legitimate complaint, you're completely justified. Let us know how it goes.
 

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Don't really blame you for being upset. Especially when they started knocking way before check out. I would've been very annoyed. Nice professional letter you wrote. Congrats on your marriage.
 

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As someone who has a history of being taken care of after contacting senior managers after junior managers blew off legitimate complaints, I am pretty sure they're going to take care of you.

I have had multiple nights free at various Marriott properties after reporting similar situations to senior management. I was in Hawaii at their Ko Olina property last year, and I had a similar situation where staff kept trying to enter my room early in the AM to clean it even though I had the Do Not Disturb sign up. After the second day it happened, I ripped the staff-member a new one, then I went downstairs and absolutely lit the day manager at the front desk on fire.

It didn't happen again, and they sent me a voucher for two nights at any Marriott property.

First world problems...lol

Hey, let me tell you. EVERYthing costs nowadays, and it costs a lot. Therefore, I do not accept poor service of any kind. If I'm laying down money, I'm getting what I paid for, or I'm not paying for it. Pretty simple. Or, if I do pay for it, the highest level of management I can communicate with is being notified.
 

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Make sure you write a cliff-note version on tripadvisor.com. I'm pretty sure the hotel we stayed at our wedding night eventually went bankrupt because of the review I left on there. I posted a picture of cockroaches that were in our bathroom and still to this day when you look at their Tripadvisor, it's the first "traveler photo" that comes up!
 

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I would recommend that you send them a link to this thread. Post it up on your FB wall if you have one and send them a link to that as well. Yelp, Angies list, and you are certainly a member of some other tourist boards or the like where you can post this, do so and send them links as well.

Good on your for not losing your cool. I would have. I woul dhave ripped the first maid a new one, ripped the second person a bigger new one, and then let the manager have an earful as well, loud enough that anyone withint 50 yards could hear me.
 

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And if I was running the show I would've sent each of you who stated they'd pitch a fit packing. Customer service employees are people, not servants. That first maid could've been a single mom barely scraping by that was just following orders. I've actually told some pos to leave a restaurant I was eating at because he was starting to get violent with the staff. They thanked me afterwords. I guess a lot of managers are too scared to do what's right.

In a side note I wish the OP the best even though his management style for PF Chang's is wrong. Not every customer is worth chasing down to ensure they're happy. Sometimes you just gotta cut your losses and move on. It's better for business.
 
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OP, copy and paste your post into their site on TripAdvisor. Add a link to the Ritz Carlton down in San Clemente and suggest that people take their business there instead.

Sounds like the GM or AGM or that property needs special attention. You might want to check if there is a management company that runs the property and another group that owns the property. I did a bunch of work in the hospitality industry for one of my clients that owned many hotels. If you can get to the owner (assuming it is not directly owned) there will be hell to pay by the GM and AGM.

Many owners offload the burden of managing the property to another company. Assuming that is the case, raise holy hell with them too. If you get to the owner and the property management company, your phone should start ringing with people trying to make it right.

Looks like others have had the same experience:

Guests are nickel and dimed for everything - Review of Laguna Cliffs Marriott Resort and Spa, Dana Point, CA - TripAdvisor
 

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And if I was running the show I would've sent each of you who stated they'd pitch a fit packing. Customer service employees are people, not servants. That first maid could've been a single mom barely scraping by that was just following orders. .
there was a "do not disturb sign on the door, check out was not till 11. her marching orders do not include disturbing paying guests that have said they do not want to be disturbed. no matter how you cut it. and yeah you would send someone packing and find out the hard way that one customer DOES make a difference and sometimes can cost you way more than a comp'ed room.

I had someone tell my ex-wife that "one customer one way or another means exactly nothing to a business" he found out after the incident was written up in the Washington Post, to include his name, and the name of the store he managed that one customer DOES make a difference and his reagional managers did not take kindly to his stupid.

In a side note I wish the OP the best even though his management style for PF Chang's is wrong. Not every customer is worth chasing down to ensure they're happy. Sometimes you just gotta cut your losses and move on. It's better for business.
I am sure your invaluable opinion on his management style is going to be given every due it is worth, as it swirls down the shitter.
 

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And if I was running the show I would've sent each of you who stated they'd pitch a fit packing. Customer service employees are people, not servants. That first maid could've been a single mom barely scraping by that was just following orders. I've actually told some pos to leave a restaurant I was eating at because he was starting to get violent with the staff. They thanked me afterwords. I guess a lot of managers are too scared to do what's right.

In a side note I wish the OP the best even though his management style for PF Chang's is wrong. Not every customer is worth chasing down to ensure they're happy. Sometimes you just gotta cut your losses and move on. It's better for business.

Airline pilots are people, not servants as well. Should they be allowed to land you in Ohio when you payed for Florida? The pilot could be a poor divorced father barely making his alimony payments so you should STFU and not complain that you didn't receive what you payed for.
 

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Airline pilots aren't poor and they don't land in another destination unless they absolutely have to. That's just a stupid analogy. What's the we're all dumber for that and award you no points line?

If that's totally permissible behavior if you walked in somewhere and saw your wife getting berated you wouldn't say a thing right? It's totally justified according to you afterall.
 
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there was a "do not disturb sign on the door, check out was not till 11. her marching orders do not include disturbing paying guests that have said they do not want to be disturbed. no matter how you cut it. and yeah you would send someone packing and find out the hard way that one customer DOES make a difference and sometimes can cost you way more than a comp'ed room.

I had someone tell my ex-wife that "one customer one way or another means exactly nothing to a business" he found out after the incident was written up in the Washington Post, to include his name, and the name of the store he managed that one customer DOES make a difference and his reagional managers did not take kindly to his stupid.

I am sure your invaluable opinion on his management style is going to be given every due it is worth, as it swirls down the shitter.

So you're going to neglect the repeat regular customer to coddle some turd who more than likely wont come back and tries to get out of their bill? Yeah that makes perfect sense.....

I never said toss every customer at the first sign of trouble either. Also, my original comments were directed at those who said they'd get irate. The OP stated he remained calm. Learning to read would do wonders for your ability to debate.
 

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his analogy, when weighed against your stupid post is pretty much spot on. and pretty hard to say we are dumber for that, when your post is about a million times more dumb. so when making comments speak for yourself and don't presume to speak for the rest of us

Airline pilots aren't poor and they don't land in another destination unless they absolutely have to. That's just a stupid analogy. What's the we're all dumber for that and award you no points line?

If that's totally permissible behavior if you walked in somewhere and saw your wife getti g berated you wouldn't say a thing right? It's totally justified according to you.
 

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No.....

Airline pilots don't make the choice to land anywhere they want so you're wrong.

If you're right, do show proof they can. Last time I checked it's only allowed under extreme circumstances.

This should be hilarious.
 
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So you're going to neglect the repeat regular customer to coddle some turd who more than likely wont come back and tries to get out of their bill? .
where did I say this? oh wait... I didn't, I didn't even suggest it.
I never said toss every customer at the first sign of trouble either. .
ah more putting words in my mouth, I didn't say you did.
Also, my original comments were directed at those who said they'd get irate. The OP stated he remained calm. .
OK :shrug:
Learning to read would do wonders for your ability to debate .
don't hink I am the one that needs to learn to read there sport. your response was off topic, filled with incorrect assumptions and more worthy of becoming toilet swirl than your first one was
 

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