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<blockquote data-quote="SecondhandSnake" data-source="post: 16581420" data-attributes="member: 116684"><p>That's your opinion based on one car, and I have mine based on the hybrids I've worked on/serviced, from passenger car to truck and bus with a variety of hybrid achitectures. That's including manufacturer testing where we're accumulating mileage on as many units as possible to try and find when and where things fail.</p><p></p><p>Toyota certainly is probably one of the most reliable hybrid manufacturers, but that goes for their ICE cars as well.</p><p></p><p>On hybrids as a whole I don't think I've seen any powertrain failures. The failures are usually fault codes and the resulting limitations that they can cause. Root cause usually comes back to sensors, modules, and software, with wiring and hardware failure appearing later in the life cycle. </p><p></p><p>And I said they were unfeasible, not that they're garbage. None of that is FUDD. But what's the sense in buying something that costs twice as much up front, weighs more, and doesn't offer significant enough fuel economy savings to offset the initial capital cost within a reasonable ROI? Once you start factoring in battery replacement during it's lifespan and the impact that has on residual value, it's not a winning economic argument. That's why customers stopped taking them as incentives expired, and full EVs became the new standard.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SecondhandSnake, post: 16581420, member: 116684"] That's your opinion based on one car, and I have mine based on the hybrids I've worked on/serviced, from passenger car to truck and bus with a variety of hybrid achitectures. That's including manufacturer testing where we're accumulating mileage on as many units as possible to try and find when and where things fail. Toyota certainly is probably one of the most reliable hybrid manufacturers, but that goes for their ICE cars as well. On hybrids as a whole I don't think I've seen any powertrain failures. The failures are usually fault codes and the resulting limitations that they can cause. Root cause usually comes back to sensors, modules, and software, with wiring and hardware failure appearing later in the life cycle. And I said they were unfeasible, not that they're garbage. None of that is FUDD. But what's the sense in buying something that costs twice as much up front, weighs more, and doesn't offer significant enough fuel economy savings to offset the initial capital cost within a reasonable ROI? Once you start factoring in battery replacement during it's lifespan and the impact that has on residual value, it's not a winning economic argument. That's why customers stopped taking them as incentives expired, and full EVs became the new standard. [/QUOTE]
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