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<blockquote data-quote="RDJ" data-source="post: 6518712" data-attributes="member: 5905"><p>Actually this is not entirely true. it depends on the Cert. A LOT of companies are requiring the Degree AND the cert. If you only have the cert you are not looking at top tier stuff. </p><p></p><p>and Certs don't show shit altho companies still seem to believe that they do. the higher level CISCO cert certainly shows you know your stuff because they have a huge practical lab as part of the cert. but Microsoft, CompTia, and lower level cisco's do not do that. I have seen some certified people that couldn't do even the simplest jobs. Like the CCNA holder I had to show how to do a "SH IP INT BR" and explain to her what it showed. </p><p></p><p>I have been doing IT stuff since the mid 80s, I have no college degree, and only recently got a couple of certs. As long as I had a good network of friends in other companies I had no trouble getting a job. That network went away when I moved to Texas and I learned when I got laid off from Dell that most companies are looking for the DEGREE and the CERTS not just one or the other. the advantage I have over either one is a very wide spectrum of experience which will, in some cases, trump a fresh out of college guy with a cert or two.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RDJ, post: 6518712, member: 5905"] Actually this is not entirely true. it depends on the Cert. A LOT of companies are requiring the Degree AND the cert. If you only have the cert you are not looking at top tier stuff. and Certs don't show shit altho companies still seem to believe that they do. the higher level CISCO cert certainly shows you know your stuff because they have a huge practical lab as part of the cert. but Microsoft, CompTia, and lower level cisco's do not do that. I have seen some certified people that couldn't do even the simplest jobs. Like the CCNA holder I had to show how to do a "SH IP INT BR" and explain to her what it showed. I have been doing IT stuff since the mid 80s, I have no college degree, and only recently got a couple of certs. As long as I had a good network of friends in other companies I had no trouble getting a job. That network went away when I moved to Texas and I learned when I got laid off from Dell that most companies are looking for the DEGREE and the CERTS not just one or the other. the advantage I have over either one is a very wide spectrum of experience which will, in some cases, trump a fresh out of college guy with a cert or two. [/QUOTE]
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