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im so tired of these dam iraqis
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<blockquote data-quote="esqeddy" data-source="post: 3718329" data-attributes="member: 12322"><p>You start your post with the word "If you think" then immediately assume you know what I think.</p><p></p><p>The reason we need to leave is exactly the same reason we need to stay. Because we were wrong. "Huh?" Yep, you heard me. We were wrong going in, that much is beyond question. However, we created a duty for ourselves we cannot now abandon. The best way I can explain this is to use an analogy:</p><p></p><p></p><p>Imagine you killed a man out of self defense only find out he really wasn't a threat. Would you not feel a duty to help his orphaned children? I would.</p><p></p><p>Using this analogy, when we killed the Iraqi government, we orphaned its citizens. We have a duty now to help raise them. However, that can be a difficult proposition. The children of the man you wrongly killed may resent you, hate you, and not want to accept your help. They may even try to seek to hurt you despite your efforts to help them. In such a case, you don't bring those orphaned children into your home. Rather, you make arrangements for them elsewhere and pay the tab. A good solution is a family relative.</p><p></p><p>In the case of Iraq, we should meet our obligation by getting someone else to do the job of providing security for the new government. I would suggest a coalition of Islamic troops under the command of the local government now in place. We replace our troops with Egyptian, Syrian, Iranian, Saudi, and other troops all of whom are of Arab decent and who all speak the local language. We pay the tab. We are already paying the tab, so that is no big deal. In fact, it would likely cost us less in the long run. Why?</p><p></p><p>Less reason for an insurgency. Therefore less violence. There isn't a occupation force of foreign tongued infidels. And we don't have to pay to shuffle our troops back and forth from the US. It frees up our troops to do other things. The islamic troops earn much less than American troops. </p><p></p><p>Also, absent the non-islamic non-arab presence, then the focus of the people will shift more to the national identity. Will civil war break out? Who knows. But it certainly wouldn't happen on our watch and with our troops caught in the middle.</p><p></p><p>Also, it would help repair our credibility world wide. Instead of being viewed as the invaders and occupiers holding up a puppet government, we would be viewed as simply the government that took down the ruthless dictatorship of Saddam, and who is now providing lots and lots of foreign aide.</p><p></p><p>So, yes, we do need to leave. But we can't do it until we have someone else to raise the orphan. We took the approach of teaching the orphan to take care of itself, instead of getting a relative to take care of the orphan. Raising a child to where it can care for itself takes years. A relative already is mature enough to do it immediately. If we had gotten the relative to do it, we would have already been home, saved a lot of money, and a lot of American lives.</p><p></p><p>NOW you know what I think.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="esqeddy, post: 3718329, member: 12322"] You start your post with the word "If you think" then immediately assume you know what I think. The reason we need to leave is exactly the same reason we need to stay. Because we were wrong. "Huh?" Yep, you heard me. We were wrong going in, that much is beyond question. However, we created a duty for ourselves we cannot now abandon. The best way I can explain this is to use an analogy: Imagine you killed a man out of self defense only find out he really wasn't a threat. Would you not feel a duty to help his orphaned children? I would. Using this analogy, when we killed the Iraqi government, we orphaned its citizens. We have a duty now to help raise them. However, that can be a difficult proposition. The children of the man you wrongly killed may resent you, hate you, and not want to accept your help. They may even try to seek to hurt you despite your efforts to help them. In such a case, you don't bring those orphaned children into your home. Rather, you make arrangements for them elsewhere and pay the tab. A good solution is a family relative. In the case of Iraq, we should meet our obligation by getting someone else to do the job of providing security for the new government. I would suggest a coalition of Islamic troops under the command of the local government now in place. We replace our troops with Egyptian, Syrian, Iranian, Saudi, and other troops all of whom are of Arab decent and who all speak the local language. We pay the tab. We are already paying the tab, so that is no big deal. In fact, it would likely cost us less in the long run. Why? Less reason for an insurgency. Therefore less violence. There isn't a occupation force of foreign tongued infidels. And we don't have to pay to shuffle our troops back and forth from the US. It frees up our troops to do other things. The islamic troops earn much less than American troops. Also, absent the non-islamic non-arab presence, then the focus of the people will shift more to the national identity. Will civil war break out? Who knows. But it certainly wouldn't happen on our watch and with our troops caught in the middle. Also, it would help repair our credibility world wide. Instead of being viewed as the invaders and occupiers holding up a puppet government, we would be viewed as simply the government that took down the ruthless dictatorship of Saddam, and who is now providing lots and lots of foreign aide. So, yes, we do need to leave. But we can't do it until we have someone else to raise the orphan. We took the approach of teaching the orphan to take care of itself, instead of getting a relative to take care of the orphan. Raising a child to where it can care for itself takes years. A relative already is mature enough to do it immediately. If we had gotten the relative to do it, we would have already been home, saved a lot of money, and a lot of American lives. NOW you know what I think. [/QUOTE]
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