It was an animal. That car is great and urberfast. You (BRUCE) 00R guys don't stand a chance.....
Ask your questions now and I'll give you my feedback.....
bpt
Ask your questions now and I'll give you my feedback.....
bpt
I spent Sat. @Gingerman flogging a C6 Z06....
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What was your impressions, I need details! I feel the new Z06 is the best bang for the buck, bar none, domestically or otherwise. It is one snotty beast.
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It will take some pretty terrific driving skills AND a willingness to push the R to places it may have never been to keep up with this thing. It takes a lot to make up for the power to weight and low center of gravity.
Man, I sure wish Ford would make a "real" sports car to compete with the Vette?!! The Mustangs are great, but they are just too heavy to compete with the Vette/Z06.
Man, I sure wish Ford would make a "real" sports car to compete with the Vette?!! The Mustangs are great, but they are just too heavy to compete with the Vette/Z06.
b_tone said:
I'm sure I put that $70+k on the dresser last night. "Honey, have you seen that big wad of bills around here anywhere?" :shrug:
--Mike
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b_tone said:
Tonester:
You'll have to wait for me and Damian to post the videos of our C6 2006 Z06 kills (notice plurals) this past weekend at Auto-Bahn?!?!
:rockon: :rockon: :rockon: (ok, we spanked a Ford GT too, but that don't count nearly as much as the Z!! Right fellas?!?!?) ;-)
They went down like cheap dates!! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
Videos (Oh yes, we definitely HAVE THEM!!!) to follow.
:read:
epper:
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Bruce, what's your fast lap at Gingerman?
I ran between 75-100 laps in the car. The steering felt very precise and linear (keep in mind that on OEM street tires the response is a bit vague). The car had mild understeer and some wicked drop throttle oversteer. The car took a while to get the hang of to the point where I could catch it as it rotated. It did not rotate as easily as I wanted it to (using the brake).
That car has gobs of power and pulls hard right up to the 7k limiter. The whole track can be run very hard in 3rd gear. The trans shifted well w/o feeling vague or notchy throttle response was very good power was linear.
The brakes were fantastic, the ABS cal is very good. I had no fade all day even divebombing into T1 letting the ABS take over.
The interior quality was good. It looked good and felt good (not plasticy to the touch). Road NVH was well within the acceptable range on the drive out and back. This is a car that can be driven every day in comfort.
It is also capable of running a 1:31.96 @ Gingerman on the street tires and a passenger. That was recorded by our data acq.....
Bruce I have no doubt that you passed some Z06's and a GT but without a "real" driver in those cars it's like beating up your little sister.
I ran between 75-100 laps in the car. The steering felt very precise and linear (keep in mind that on OEM street tires the response is a bit vague). The car had mild understeer and some wicked drop throttle oversteer. The car took a while to get the hang of to the point where I could catch it as it rotated. It did not rotate as easily as I wanted it to (using the brake).
That car has gobs of power and pulls hard right up to the 7k limiter. The whole track can be run very hard in 3rd gear. The trans shifted well w/o feeling vague or notchy throttle response was very good power was linear.
The brakes were fantastic, the ABS cal is very good. I had no fade all day even divebombing into T1 letting the ABS take over.
The interior quality was good. It looked good and felt good (not plasticy to the touch). Road NVH was well within the acceptable range on the drive out and back. This is a car that can be driven every day in comfort.
It is also capable of running a 1:31.96 @ Gingerman on the street tires and a passenger. That was recorded by our data acq.....
Bruce I have no doubt that you passed some Z06's and a GT but without a "real" driver in those cars it's like beating up your little sister.
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b_tone said:
I think I just wet my pants!
b_tone said:
Brian:
I never had a 'reason' to put my good stuff (tires/wheels) on at Gingerman and run a lap. With Nitto's on the car AND my Nephew (who weighs more than I do) riding as a passenger, I ran a 1:37. Brian Groth and I were debating on how much a passenger slows you down there and I estimated 2 seconds? He didn't think it was that much? I guess we won't know until we test the theory?
If you would read my "We got our work cut out for us" thread:
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221934
You would have remembered that I "said"
ac427cobra said:I'm going to continue to hope they are all piloted by crappy drivers!! That's our best defense!!
Brian, I certainly don't think, that you think, that I'm as naive as you're coming across? I know full well that even a decent driver in a new C-6 Z06 will take me to the wood shed. (heck, I'll bet YOU could even do it?!?! )
oke: ;-) That's what I find so facinating about this silly little exercise. :fart: I find it very entertaining. Maybe others don't? But I do!!
It's like the story of "The Little R that could". I'm pretty sure you're familiar with that story?!?! :read:
:thumbsup: :coolman: :beer:
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Good driving Brian.
Mr. Mysti said:
Vince:
You're going to give him a Big Head!! :dw:
OK, JMHO:
The C6 Z06 is a great car. I'll probably get one in three years when they cost $30K. :-D
I have about $27K in my '02 C5 Z06. You couldn't touch a '00R for that.
It's all about being a racing gearhead. You need to experience a few different brands, but your heart always goes back to the Mustang.
Yes, a C6 Z06 can whoop a '00R. You'll need $70K (with taxes) to buy the car and another $50K to get in on the track (rollbar, parts, etc.). A '05 Ford GT just sold for $132K. What will be more enjoyable over the next five years: racing a C6 Z06 or owning a Ford GT? :shrug: The Ford GT will be less money over a couple of years.
Can you tell I'm burnt out on the cost involved with racing?
P/S The guy with the most money always ultimately wins the amateur race!!
The C6 Z06 is a great car. I'll probably get one in three years when they cost $30K. :-D
I have about $27K in my '02 C5 Z06. You couldn't touch a '00R for that.
It's all about being a racing gearhead. You need to experience a few different brands, but your heart always goes back to the Mustang.
Yes, a C6 Z06 can whoop a '00R. You'll need $70K (with taxes) to buy the car and another $50K to get in on the track (rollbar, parts, etc.). A '05 Ford GT just sold for $132K. What will be more enjoyable over the next five years: racing a C6 Z06 or owning a Ford GT? :shrug: The Ford GT will be less money over a couple of years.
Can you tell I'm burnt out on the cost involved with racing?
P/S The guy with the most money always ultimately wins the amateur race!!
1995COBRA-R said:
Hey Doc:
That's pretty optimistic isn't it?!!
oke: ;-) And to think there are people teasing me about my plan of buying a Ford GT in a couple years for 80k?!?! :shrug:
:thumbsup: :coolman: :beer:
I'm a born optimist :-D .ac427cobra said:
Bruce, I'd say the momentum of the falling prices on Ford GT's point to your being dead on correct. I'd be a little more conservative and say it may be three years before you get it.
Did you see the pics of the new Ford GT roadster (I forgot what they call it)? It will be previewed at SEMA. The open top crowd will want one of those; taking the newness off the GT (the same crowd that wants a Z06 'vert :dw: ).
The new vehicle I am most excited about is the S197 Mustang that might be suitable for a road race guy. I'll pass on the Shelby, but I'd buy a new S197 Boss/Mach. I won't worry about the depreciation since I plan to stick it in the wall anyway. :-D :nonono:
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Mr. Mystic: Why doesn't the g-force figures match on the chart you posted? They offer one figure on the chart and completely other numbers on the "track facts" numbers. The GT needs to go on a diet (342 lbs heavier than the Z06).
I wonder how the GT (not that I'd ever consider doing it) would run in continual 90%+ track use? Would the water and oil temps stay in a safe range?
and dont forget a smaller blower pulley
1995COBRA-R said:
I like your thinking Doc!! :thumbsup:
1995COBRA-R said:
I think a 'slim-fast' version of the S197 (from the factory, perhaps similar to the "R" program?) would be a big hit? Possibly as many as 1,000 cars? Say 50k? There might be more interest for something like that than some people (Ford Brass) might think?
Mark and Brian:
You guys wanna get going on that?!?!
oke: :read:ac427cobra said:I think a 'slim-fast' version of the S197 (from the factory, perhaps similar to the "R" program?) would be a big hit? Possibly as many as 1,000 cars? Say 50k? There might be more interest for something like that than some people (Ford Brass) might think?
Mark and Brian:
You guys wanna get going on that?!?!
I think Brian has been telling you this already, the car you are looking for is the new Z06. :beer:
Brian
Cobra-R said:
Ok Brian:
Dyed in the wool, Ford Blue bleeding guys don't drive the car of the biggest rival no matter what! (I think Ken knows what I'm talking about!?!?) :burnout:
The Tonester shouldn't be telling everybody on the SVT Performance message board how awesome the competition's vehicles are?!
oke: ;-) Maybe he doesn't care about job security?!? :read: How much fun would it be to pass everybody on the track driving the new Z06? :bored:
My idea of fun is watching the arms come out of the window of the new Z06 to give a passing signal to a Mustang!! :lol:
NOW THAT'S FUN!!!!!
epper: epper: epper:
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