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<blockquote data-quote="tomshep" data-source="post: 13505578" data-attributes="member: 8203"><p>I have researched the 95Rs a TON and have extensive race records on most of the cars. I can tell you what cars have been on the podium and which have won races in the major race series.</p><p></p><p>I am only speaking of road race cars.</p><p></p><p>There are only about 20 Rs that professionally raced. This doesn't include the local SCCA club or driving events.</p><p></p><p>A lot has to do with race history, probably next is drivers and sponsorship. I also believe the livery of the car can help it if it is something that stands out.</p><p></p><p>#1) Zippo #47--4 Professional victories. I don't have the number in front of me, but another 8-10 podiums as I recall. Professionally raced from 95 until retired in 2002. HUGE race history in many series. Great livery and Zippo has a strong tie to motorsports. I bought it from TF Racing for $25,000 as a turn-key car in 02. I have turned down twice that.</p><p></p><p>#2) Steeda #20--3 Professional victories. I don't recall podiums. Raced from 95-97 or early 98. Dario got ticked at the race series and quit racing the car so it didn't have as long a history in competition. Great sponsorship due to Steeda on the side. Still owned by the original owner (not Dario).</p><p></p><p>After these two cars, it gets tougher to prioritize them. Very few had more than one victory, if any. Not in any particular order:</p><p></p><p>George Biskup #22--First R that was delivered to the public from Mascotech. There is documentation to prove this. Good race history during the early years. It is owned by a forum member.</p><p></p><p>Ed Zabinsky (Ran under a few #s)--Good race history. Has the distinction of racing in the Pike's Peak Hill Challenge. Also good race history early on. It is owned by a forum member.</p><p></p><p>Hacker Brothers--Two real Rs and one Clone. All three cars have strong race history with the clone winning the fall race at Daytona. They ran during the early years but disappeared about 98. One R and the clone are owned by forum members. The second R is in Florida.</p><p></p><p>Snipes Ford--One real R and three Clones. These cars had a great livery with the stars and stripes pattern. The real R was actually built by Hacker Brothers and raced under their livery for part of 95. Then went to the famous Stars and Stripes Team Livery for Snipes Ford which was on all of the cars. It was made famous in the 96 Road Atlanta rain race that destroyed nearly half the field. Two of the clones also raced under the Budget Rental Car livery. One of the clones did have a victory. I own the R and it needs complete rebuilding. The replacement car to mine was a clone and raced by Seafuse Racing before being purchased by a private owner in the North-East and has been turned back into its Stars and Stripes Livery. Forum members own the second clone and the third clone wrecked chassis.</p><p></p><p>Massuri-Muller--One real R and one clone. Whereabouts unknown.....</p><p></p><p>Steeda/Terra-X R--Raced as a team car with the #20 for three races and had one podium as I recall. It was purchased from the original owner by a forum member. Then sold to an enthusiast that raced it at the hobby level and finally to a vintage racer. This car is maintained by Gary Jones Motorsports.</p><p></p><p>I am not touching on the many clone Rs that were built over the years and raced at the professional and amateur level. These cars are the ones that will be much tougher to come up with a value for.</p><p></p><p>There are a few more, but these are the more common chassis. As you eluded to, most have already been purchased by people that know what they are. The current owners are enthusiasts that enjoy the cars for what they were intended but also hopeful they may someday be worth a decent amount of money.</p><p></p><p>I am sure others will chime in on cars I have missed.</p><p></p><p>Tom</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tomshep, post: 13505578, member: 8203"] I have researched the 95Rs a TON and have extensive race records on most of the cars. I can tell you what cars have been on the podium and which have won races in the major race series. I am only speaking of road race cars. There are only about 20 Rs that professionally raced. This doesn't include the local SCCA club or driving events. A lot has to do with race history, probably next is drivers and sponsorship. I also believe the livery of the car can help it if it is something that stands out. #1) Zippo #47--4 Professional victories. I don't have the number in front of me, but another 8-10 podiums as I recall. Professionally raced from 95 until retired in 2002. HUGE race history in many series. Great livery and Zippo has a strong tie to motorsports. I bought it from TF Racing for $25,000 as a turn-key car in 02. I have turned down twice that. #2) Steeda #20--3 Professional victories. I don't recall podiums. Raced from 95-97 or early 98. Dario got ticked at the race series and quit racing the car so it didn't have as long a history in competition. Great sponsorship due to Steeda on the side. Still owned by the original owner (not Dario). After these two cars, it gets tougher to prioritize them. Very few had more than one victory, if any. Not in any particular order: George Biskup #22--First R that was delivered to the public from Mascotech. There is documentation to prove this. Good race history during the early years. It is owned by a forum member. Ed Zabinsky (Ran under a few #s)--Good race history. Has the distinction of racing in the Pike's Peak Hill Challenge. Also good race history early on. It is owned by a forum member. Hacker Brothers--Two real Rs and one Clone. All three cars have strong race history with the clone winning the fall race at Daytona. They ran during the early years but disappeared about 98. One R and the clone are owned by forum members. The second R is in Florida. Snipes Ford--One real R and three Clones. These cars had a great livery with the stars and stripes pattern. The real R was actually built by Hacker Brothers and raced under their livery for part of 95. Then went to the famous Stars and Stripes Team Livery for Snipes Ford which was on all of the cars. It was made famous in the 96 Road Atlanta rain race that destroyed nearly half the field. Two of the clones also raced under the Budget Rental Car livery. One of the clones did have a victory. I own the R and it needs complete rebuilding. The replacement car to mine was a clone and raced by Seafuse Racing before being purchased by a private owner in the North-East and has been turned back into its Stars and Stripes Livery. Forum members own the second clone and the third clone wrecked chassis. Massuri-Muller--One real R and one clone. Whereabouts unknown..... Steeda/Terra-X R--Raced as a team car with the #20 for three races and had one podium as I recall. It was purchased from the original owner by a forum member. Then sold to an enthusiast that raced it at the hobby level and finally to a vintage racer. This car is maintained by Gary Jones Motorsports. I am not touching on the many clone Rs that were built over the years and raced at the professional and amateur level. These cars are the ones that will be much tougher to come up with a value for. There are a few more, but these are the more common chassis. As you eluded to, most have already been purchased by people that know what they are. The current owners are enthusiasts that enjoy the cars for what they were intended but also hopeful they may someday be worth a decent amount of money. I am sure others will chime in on cars I have missed. Tom [/QUOTE]
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