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Heel/Toe shifting question
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<blockquote data-quote="BlackBolt9" data-source="post: 5998759" data-attributes="member: 36489"><p>From what I see it takes a lot more than just talent to make money as a road course driver. Unless you get into something like MX-5 cup where Mazda actually makes sure the winningest driver moves up to the next level.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I understood you correctly. I have talked with my dad about the same issues (he has been a mechanic all his life and used to drag race a bit). He had the same opinion, "it doesn't hurt but it's not necessary".</p><p></p><p>FWIW He worked mostly on over the road trucks and told me he saw a test from (I think) Allison. They gave two guys exactly similar trucks. One guy double clutched every shift, the other guy matched RPM's and slipped between gears. They got the same service intervals for lubrication and everything. At the end of the test period (about 200,000 miles IIRC) they torn down the transmissions and there was less wear on the transmission that used the clutch, however both were still completely safe functional transmissions. I don't think that applies directly but it is another data point to consider.</p><p></p><p>As far as the trailbrake issue...</p><p></p><p>I need some clarification, I only have my ill handling beast of a machine to play with at this point so I may have some confusion. I brake pretty hard and late coming into a corner then ease off the pedal. I am still coming off the pedal after turn-in to keep from upsetting the truck too much. Would that be considered trail braking or is that just using the brake pedal smoothly? I started doing it after learning to brake much more smoothly in the rain. Either way I could agree I am doing that to overcome the handling issues of the vehicle. I don't find it to be difficult to get right since I have learned to left foot brake and don't have a clutch to mess with like the rest of you guys. So one foot comes off the brakes while the other foot rolls into the throttle smoothly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BlackBolt9, post: 5998759, member: 36489"] From what I see it takes a lot more than just talent to make money as a road course driver. Unless you get into something like MX-5 cup where Mazda actually makes sure the winningest driver moves up to the next level. I understood you correctly. I have talked with my dad about the same issues (he has been a mechanic all his life and used to drag race a bit). He had the same opinion, "it doesn't hurt but it's not necessary". FWIW He worked mostly on over the road trucks and told me he saw a test from (I think) Allison. They gave two guys exactly similar trucks. One guy double clutched every shift, the other guy matched RPM's and slipped between gears. They got the same service intervals for lubrication and everything. At the end of the test period (about 200,000 miles IIRC) they torn down the transmissions and there was less wear on the transmission that used the clutch, however both were still completely safe functional transmissions. I don't think that applies directly but it is another data point to consider. As far as the trailbrake issue... I need some clarification, I only have my ill handling beast of a machine to play with at this point so I may have some confusion. I brake pretty hard and late coming into a corner then ease off the pedal. I am still coming off the pedal after turn-in to keep from upsetting the truck too much. Would that be considered trail braking or is that just using the brake pedal smoothly? I started doing it after learning to brake much more smoothly in the rain. Either way I could agree I am doing that to overcome the handling issues of the vehicle. I don't find it to be difficult to get right since I have learned to left foot brake and don't have a clutch to mess with like the rest of you guys. So one foot comes off the brakes while the other foot rolls into the throttle smoothly. [/QUOTE]
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