Got Cams?

[mr4teth]

Well now that I've decided to keep my car I'm thinking about cams.

I've been out of the moding mode for a while and was wondering who's doing what cams? Anything I should be concerned with ... (beside spend a ton of money)?

 

[Modular Racing]

Cams are a great idea, we have a great s/c specific 5.4 grind for the GT500, they will produce 55-65 RWHP over stock with no other changes of the cams and re-tune. They do require our upgraded spring package however. The MMR custom cams are $1199 and are made for us by Comp and the Spring and Titanium retainer kit is $899. Both are a direct install with no modifications required to the heads. The springs can be installed with the engine in the car with a OTC spring tool and some patience. The cams will produce increased power across the entire power band and add a nice little lope to the idle! If you want to pull the engine and send it in we can install them for you, we can also arrange pick-up of the engine with our freight company, we can even upgrade the internals while we are in there!!

For the more serious racer MMR has the largest and highest HP cams available, capable of increasing hp by 125+ RWHP!! Please call for details and we can build a cam to suit your exact needs with the highest possible gains.

Please let us know how we can help!

Some MMR cam idle sound samples:

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Many more on youtube- just search MMR cams



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[cjgt500]

Must have :bowdown:

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[Kenneth]

Must have :bowdown:

GT500 CRAZY CAMMED - YouTube

Those sound awesome.

 

[Proto]

Only seen people do Ford GT cams and a write up in mmff on Justin Starkey's Comp Cam Mild street cam install. IMO, the cost dosen't justify the gain. However, justin lost a small portion of low range power below 4k, and only picked up 38hp and 1tq

2007 Shelby GT500 Comp Cams Install - VMP Tuning - Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords Magazine

They have a nice lope though, would sound nicer with a lower lobe seperation but probably wouldn't benefit in the power department.

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L&M sound quite nice too, dunno any real number gains though. Sound difference is most likey due to exhaust only.

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can't find a GT cam video.


Would be a great install if all other parts of the field have been played. But as a power adder alone, not much there vs cost from what i can find.

 

[stkjock]

can't find a GT cam video.

youtube is blocked at my office or I'd post a vid, if you search my SN on youtube there are several vids of the Shelby that you can hear the Ford GT Cams in a Shelby

IMO - cams are a "last in line" mod after you've exhausted the balance of power adding items. They are costly in both parts and labor to do.

 

[mr4teth]

youtube is blocked at my office or I'd post a vid, if you search my SN on youtube there are several vids of the Shelby that you can hear the Ford GT Cams in a Shelby

IMO - cams are a "last in line" mod after you've exhausted the balance of power adding items. They are costly in both parts and labor to do.

I agree 100% but I'm at that line. I don't need anymore "dyno numbers" I want a cool sounding car to match what I already have. I'm estimating $3k-$4k but I'm also considering do some motor upgrades while we are in there. Didn't you build your motor? .... we might need to "chat"

 

[mr4teth]

Only seen people do Ford GT cams and a write up in mmff on Justin Starkey's Comp Cam Mild street cam install. IMO, the cost dosen't justify the gain. However, justin lost a small portion of low range power below 4k, and only picked up 38hp and 1tq

2007 Shelby GT500 Comp Cams Install - VMP Tuning - Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords Magazine

They have a nice lope though, would sound nicer with a lower lobe seperation but probably wouldn't benefit in the power department.


L&M sound quite nice too, dunno any real number gains though. Sound difference is most likey due to exhaust only.


can't find a GT cam video.


Would be a great install if all other parts of the field have been played. But as a power adder alone, not much there vs cost from what i can find.

Thanks for the vids .... they get me 3/4's :uh oh:! Any idea if those two were running headers? with or without cats?

 

[mr4teth]

..... we can even upgrade the internals while we are in there!!

Reading my mind!

 

[stkjock]

L&M built the motor in my Shelby - the Ford GT cams were in the car when I purchased it.

 

[gtt500]

Thanks for the vids .... they get me 3/4's :uh oh:! Any idea if those two were running headers? with or without cats?

Mine is the white one.I am using Kooks headers with cats.

 

[johnjon87]

check my sig for my old cams setup.. We just changed em up and went a little more aggressive this time, Hopefully Ill have some new clips by the end of march!

 

[rw95gt]

How aggressive can you get with getting a nice "cammed sound" with out loosing power? I know its not possible to make it sound like a 408 stroker or anything but if cams ever went in my car I would want them to sound nice. The ones posted above sound good but I would want it to sound more aggressive. Porb not in the cards really with a modular.

 

[bull3441]

I agree 100% but I'm at that line. I don't need anymore "dyno numbers" I want a cool sounding car to match what I already have. I'm estimating $3k-$4k but I'm also considering do some motor upgrades while we are in there. Didn't you build your motor? .... we might need to "chat"

do you have a built motor? wait till you open up the the motor and do it all at once. it's a lot of $ for the return. i base this off of my experience from my cam cost.

$1200-1500 cams
$900 springs & retainers
$2k+ for labor and degree cams
$250-500 re-tune

 

[johnjon87]

do you have a built motor? wait till you open up the the motor and do it all at once. it's a lot of $ for the return. i base this off of my experience from my cam cost.

$1200-1500 cams
$900 springs & retainers
$2k+ for labor and degree cams
$250-500 re-tune

X2... couldn't have said it any better

 

[bull3441]

perhaps MMR can post some before/after dyno plots of 55-65whp on the same fuel. i have yet to see a cam swap make more than 38-42whp. i can only base this on what's available via searching and talking with owners who did the swap.

 

[johnjon87]

perhaps MMR can post some before/after dyno plots of 55-65whp on the same fuel. i have yet to see a cam swap make more than 38-42whp. i can only base this on what's available via searching and talking with owners who did the swap.

Lund told me that he could have made a ton more hp because my cams were breathing so well but i wasn't set up for the right fuel.. I can't wait to c what he does with these new cams and proper fuel w/ e85 setup

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[cjgt500]

Have a friend who is installing L&M custom cams that was quoted he will see up to 85rwhp gains. We'll see.

 

[bull3441]

Have a friend who is installing L&M custom cams that was quoted he will see up to 85rwhp gains. We'll see.

what blower does he have? i have L&M cams as well.

 

[shelby mark]

do you have a built motor? wait till you open up the the motor and do it all at once. it's a lot of $ for the return. i base this off of my experience from my cam cost.

$1200-1500 cams
$900 springs & retainers
$2k+ for labor and degree cams
$250-500 re-tune

thats a lot of cash for 50HP, that 50hp might gain you 1/10 second, just drop 100lbs and you get the same result