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Engine CARNAGE...#8... 5L KryPoNITE
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<blockquote data-quote="Blacksmoke" data-source="post: 10869052" data-attributes="member: 124998"><p>But you are forgetting something according to the law...Ford MUST PROVE it was the tune or modification that you did was what caused the engine damage. I don't think people are realizing this. </p><p></p><p>And I hear people saying, "Well it states CLEARLY in Ford Warranty if you mod the car the warranty is gone."</p><p>Thing is it does NOT MATTER if the Ford warranty says this. Ford can put this in the warranty as much and as clear as they want. THE LAW takes presence and has rule OVER what Ford says.</p><p></p><p>Whether fair or not, this is what the law says so this is what goes. Morally correct or not. The problem for the person stating this law to ford is that they have to barf up the money to actually take Ford to court.</p><p></p><p>While I agree on moral terms in a way that you must pay to play and if you mod you take a risk. I also agree morally that you should not have to pay for an engine going boom if your mods were not the cause and it was a faultly design by Ford.</p><p>This whole thing can be looked at with some legitimacy on BOTH sides as far as morals go and what should or should not be covered.</p><p></p><p>But we must also remember that the LAW is what stands. Not what is morally right or wrong in our land. Again I think both sides have legit claims on what they think should be covered or not morally. That is what is so hard about this whole thing to swallow.</p><p></p><p>Hopefully this is not going to turn into a HUGE widespread problem.</p><p>It seems the MAJORITY of people are modding with no problems. We gotta remember that the reason it seems so widespread is the majority of people that actually start threads on the issue are those that have problems. Thus most of what you read comes from that small amount of people... which in turn makes it seem bigger than it may be.</p><p></p><p>But it is obviously happening enough to cause some worry. If it was not Ford would not take the trouble to release a TSB on the subject and re remind people of where Ford stands on the issue.</p><p></p><p>While there is a pay to play to consider and as a whole mods can cause damage even in a properly manufactured car so we must realize the whole idea of if your mods did not cause the damage why should you pay to play... also has a point to be considered.</p><p></p><p>I do feel for the people that are having this happen IF it is not the mod that is causing the underlying problem. Especially given the fact that the Mustang community has a HUGE history of loving the Mustang due to the fact that you can personalize it and mod it. </p><p></p><p>If it is indeed a Ford default causing the 5.0 not to be able to handle mods on a widespread scale, these people are going to feel left out as far as enjoying one of the big perks the Mustang has had in the fact that it has been so easy to mod and had such a huge following of being able to mod. It will feel as if their 5.0's are somehow not part of the real Mustang community or that the 5.0 becomes some sort of bastard child when the history books are closed.</p><p></p><p>Hopefully the problem will not continue to grow and IF it IS a Ford defect causing the car not to handle mods, they will be able to find the problem and fix it. Even if they choose to do so quietly. Because of the fact that there is legitimacy morally on both sides of the argument, it really makes this whole thing sad for everyone. Again regardless of whether it ends up being a Ford defect in being able to handle mods, or it ends up being a problem with the WAY the car is modded, and ends up being that instead of the engine just having a problem taking mods as a whole.</p><p></p><p>Something I wanted to add. After going through this ENTIRE thread although the issue could go widespread right now it seems like it is not HUGE.</p><p>I think that I would hold off on the tunes and mods personally until the issue was worked out BUT If my car was running fine and I had already put mods on and had been </p><p>running it for a while I think I would feel pretty comfortable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blacksmoke, post: 10869052, member: 124998"] But you are forgetting something according to the law...Ford MUST PROVE it was the tune or modification that you did was what caused the engine damage. I don't think people are realizing this. And I hear people saying, "Well it states CLEARLY in Ford Warranty if you mod the car the warranty is gone." Thing is it does NOT MATTER if the Ford warranty says this. Ford can put this in the warranty as much and as clear as they want. THE LAW takes presence and has rule OVER what Ford says. Whether fair or not, this is what the law says so this is what goes. Morally correct or not. The problem for the person stating this law to ford is that they have to barf up the money to actually take Ford to court. While I agree on moral terms in a way that you must pay to play and if you mod you take a risk. I also agree morally that you should not have to pay for an engine going boom if your mods were not the cause and it was a faultly design by Ford. This whole thing can be looked at with some legitimacy on BOTH sides as far as morals go and what should or should not be covered. But we must also remember that the LAW is what stands. Not what is morally right or wrong in our land. Again I think both sides have legit claims on what they think should be covered or not morally. That is what is so hard about this whole thing to swallow. Hopefully this is not going to turn into a HUGE widespread problem. It seems the MAJORITY of people are modding with no problems. We gotta remember that the reason it seems so widespread is the majority of people that actually start threads on the issue are those that have problems. Thus most of what you read comes from that small amount of people... which in turn makes it seem bigger than it may be. But it is obviously happening enough to cause some worry. If it was not Ford would not take the trouble to release a TSB on the subject and re remind people of where Ford stands on the issue. While there is a pay to play to consider and as a whole mods can cause damage even in a properly manufactured car so we must realize the whole idea of if your mods did not cause the damage why should you pay to play... also has a point to be considered. I do feel for the people that are having this happen IF it is not the mod that is causing the underlying problem. Especially given the fact that the Mustang community has a HUGE history of loving the Mustang due to the fact that you can personalize it and mod it. If it is indeed a Ford default causing the 5.0 not to be able to handle mods on a widespread scale, these people are going to feel left out as far as enjoying one of the big perks the Mustang has had in the fact that it has been so easy to mod and had such a huge following of being able to mod. It will feel as if their 5.0's are somehow not part of the real Mustang community or that the 5.0 becomes some sort of bastard child when the history books are closed. Hopefully the problem will not continue to grow and IF it IS a Ford defect causing the car not to handle mods, they will be able to find the problem and fix it. Even if they choose to do so quietly. Because of the fact that there is legitimacy morally on both sides of the argument, it really makes this whole thing sad for everyone. Again regardless of whether it ends up being a Ford defect in being able to handle mods, or it ends up being a problem with the WAY the car is modded, and ends up being that instead of the engine just having a problem taking mods as a whole. Something I wanted to add. After going through this ENTIRE thread although the issue could go widespread right now it seems like it is not HUGE. I think that I would hold off on the tunes and mods personally until the issue was worked out BUT If my car was running fine and I had already put mods on and had been running it for a while I think I would feel pretty comfortable. [/QUOTE]
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