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E85 conversion article!
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<blockquote data-quote="REX-RACER" data-source="post: 10269546" data-attributes="member: 14222"><p>Yeah, I'm still harping on E85! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p>At any rate, in that same 5.0 Mustang mag from this month there is an article starting on pg.182 about a Termi that switched over to E85 primarily for the value of the 105 octane. </p><p></p><p>What fuel system upgrades were needed? </p><p> - Dual Ford GT fuel pumps and 60 lb injectors. That's it, that's all! No crazy complete redesign and rebuild of the fuel system w/ teflon treated parts that were blessed by the Pope and an Excecutive order was not needed! </p><p>- From what I've read, they needed to step up this high b/c of the extra volume you need to flow w/ E85. In my opinion this is likely overkill but it ain't bad to err on the side of being over built especially if there are future performance mods in the works! </p><p></p><p>The tune?</p><p>- They utilized a Diablo flip chip w/ a dedicated gasoline tune and a dedicated E85 tune.</p><p> - Gee, where did I hear that idea before?!?!</p><p></p><p>And the results were:</p><p>There was no brain swelling, rectal bleeding and a kitten was not punched in the face!</p><p></p><p>What did happen was a gain of 20 rwhp & 20 rwtq w/ help of more aggressive timing. The car came in w/ a poolie and a tune originally and laid down 446/469 w/ poolie and a tune and ended up at 465/489. Driver reported MPG on E85 was 12.6 vs 15 on the original set up running 92 octane. However the cost differential of E85 vs Premium something on the order of a reported .70c/gal so in my opinion that argument is a wash . . . and if this MPG is really that big of a deal to you, you need to get out of the performance car game and get into a Pryus! </p><p></p><p>So is it worth it to make all of those fuel system upgrades for a 20 hp gain? Probably not . . . </p><p></p><p></p><p>BUT, if you're sizing up a blower, turbo or even N2O where you were gonna have to upgrade the fuel system anyways <strong>and</strong> you live w/ in a reasonable distance of an E85 pump, I'd be giving this serious consideration! </p><p></p><p>1). You can get race grade level octane straight out of a pump for about 1/8 of what you have to pay the local Torco/VP fuels guy - or as I call them, "you're local race crack dealer! </p><p></p><p>2). If your tune up is even half-way sane, you should never have to worry about detonation ever again!</p><p></p><p>3). You can feel all warm and fuzzy about doing something good for the environment . . . yeah I know, none of you manly men want to be associated w/ anything that wussified </p><p></p><p>so then</p><p></p><p>4). You can feel warm and fuzzy about promoting an American cottage industry and giving Middle Eastern oil producing conglomerates the finger while you do a wicked alcohol induced burn-out in their honor!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> . . . I'm just sayin' folks!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="REX-RACER, post: 10269546, member: 14222"] Yeah, I'm still harping on E85! :D At any rate, in that same 5.0 Mustang mag from this month there is an article starting on pg.182 about a Termi that switched over to E85 primarily for the value of the 105 octane. What fuel system upgrades were needed? - Dual Ford GT fuel pumps and 60 lb injectors. That's it, that's all! No crazy complete redesign and rebuild of the fuel system w/ teflon treated parts that were blessed by the Pope and an Excecutive order was not needed! - From what I've read, they needed to step up this high b/c of the extra volume you need to flow w/ E85. In my opinion this is likely overkill but it ain't bad to err on the side of being over built especially if there are future performance mods in the works! The tune? - They utilized a Diablo flip chip w/ a dedicated gasoline tune and a dedicated E85 tune. - Gee, where did I hear that idea before?!?! And the results were: There was no brain swelling, rectal bleeding and a kitten was not punched in the face! What did happen was a gain of 20 rwhp & 20 rwtq w/ help of more aggressive timing. The car came in w/ a poolie and a tune originally and laid down 446/469 w/ poolie and a tune and ended up at 465/489. Driver reported MPG on E85 was 12.6 vs 15 on the original set up running 92 octane. However the cost differential of E85 vs Premium something on the order of a reported .70c/gal so in my opinion that argument is a wash . . . and if this MPG is really that big of a deal to you, you need to get out of the performance car game and get into a Pryus! So is it worth it to make all of those fuel system upgrades for a 20 hp gain? Probably not . . . BUT, if you're sizing up a blower, turbo or even N2O where you were gonna have to upgrade the fuel system anyways [B]and[/B] you live w/ in a reasonable distance of an E85 pump, I'd be giving this serious consideration! 1). You can get race grade level octane straight out of a pump for about 1/8 of what you have to pay the local Torco/VP fuels guy - or as I call them, "you're local race crack dealer! 2). If your tune up is even half-way sane, you should never have to worry about detonation ever again! 3). You can feel all warm and fuzzy about doing something good for the environment . . . yeah I know, none of you manly men want to be associated w/ anything that wussified so then 4). You can feel warm and fuzzy about promoting an American cottage industry and giving Middle Eastern oil producing conglomerates the finger while you do a wicked alcohol induced burn-out in their honor! . . . I'm just sayin' folks! [/QUOTE]
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