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Discussion in 'Engine/Tuning' started by turbovenom, Nov 6, 2019.

  1. turbovenom

    turbovenom Member Established Member

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    Hey guys I have a 2011 5.0 that I was going to pull engine and trans out of. I know where a "swap" kit is same 6speed manual with the 5.0 with a 2.3 Tvs on it it's a swap because it has harness ecu gauges pedal etc to drop into whatever I just want it for the powertrain. Now I would assume that harness may be different but I would just use the one in my car. My question is what all changed after 2014? I would think the engine is the same but I know vendors built long blocks specify year also the blower are year specific. I'm curious what all I would need to expect to throw a 2016 drivetrain into my 2011. Any help would be appreciated thanks
     
  2. basspro302

    basspro302 Active Member Established Member

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    Gen 2 coyote has different timing components and cams need to be swapped to make the gen 1 computer work. The oil filter housing is also different. The 2015 has a different output flange on the mt82 that can be changed easily. As far as the blower im sure there are different brackets and hoses for the heat exchanger.

    I would just build the motor in the current car.

    here is a link with some info
    https://performanceparts.ford.com/download/PDFS/Coyote Technical Reference2.pdf

    Ford makes a gen 2 coyote that is compatible with gen 1 cars
     
  3. clinton2003

    clinton2003 Active Member Established Member

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    gen2's are a bit stronger, but not worth all the hassle of doing the swap. as Basspro said, just build your current engine. you'd need to do a pcm swap, then some weird stuff to make everything work. just not that much fun to do.

    Or you should be able to safely hit 650 wheel on corn with your current engine.

    Gen2 heads are better flowing (basically cast boss302 heads) and bolt directly on. that being said, im making 1200whp (uncorrected) with stock gen1 heads... soooo if your wanting to make more power, toss a rotating assembly in your engine, pistons/rods. have it professionally balanced and assembled. then assemble your longblock with opg's and crank sprocket. should be able to hit 1000 all day. Any more power than that sleeves are recommended.


    basically you just need to ask yourself how much power do you really want/need. and go from there.
     
  4. turbovenom

    turbovenom Member Established Member

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    Thanks guys I know the valves intakes etc are different I guess I am really looking to see what it take to make it work. I wasn’t even going for big power really the head gasket went on my car im scared to just do the gasket as water got in the oil and I assume I’d need to tear down to get crank and rod bearings cleaned out. I found this other setup pretty dirt cheap I’d be cool to get it done and I could throw bearings or whatever in my motor although car was shut down and never started to knock or anything but sell my old motor to make up for it. I really wasn’t trying to add boost to it but was kinda excited for it since that thing fell in my lap....
     
  5. clinton2003

    clinton2003 Active Member Established Member

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    If you got the motor you can toss your timing stuff from your engine and run your computer.

    Still think it would be better to just redo your shortblock.
     
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    WIST2013GT Active Member Established Member

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    Timing components are what I was always told was the main issue.

    Somewhat off topic, but do we know for sure that late 2014 cars didn't have 2015 shortblocks?
     
  7. clinton2003

    clinton2003 Active Member Established Member

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    I dont think it was shortblocks. I believe it was just one head. You can tell because 2015 had squared off intake ports compared to 2011-2014 rounded.
     
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