Did Ford put anti seize on back of rotor?

[Dinosgt]

Need some help on this - I recently went to a track event and had a blast. Several twenty minute sessions at 10/10ths and the car did great.

One mistake I made was during one session, fuel got very low (I burned 3/4 tank on two 20 minute sessions) and rather than risk uncovering the pickup I came in and pitted without a cool down lap. After an hour of sitting I got soft brakes and had cooked the pads.

I bought all new rotors, pads and fluid (RB two piece and Motul 600) so I tore it all apart. The calipers all seem fine, but I noticed when I pulled the front rotors off they have what appears to be grease behind the rotor surface on the hub. I am curious - does Ford apply this to keep the rotors from rusting to the hubs?

I fear I melted the grease in the wheel bearings, but since they are sealed can’t repack them - instead they are replaced as a unit.

Anyone find the same when pulling their rotors the first time (these are original)

Thank much.


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[Dinosgt]

Need some help on this - I recently went to a track event and had a blast. Several twenty minute sessions at 10/10ths and the car did great.

One mistake I made was during one session, fuel got very low (I burned 3/4 tank on two 20 minute sessions) and rather than risk uncovering the pickup I came in and pitted without a cool down lap. After an hour of sitting I got soft brakes and had cooked the pads.

I bought all new rotors, pads and fluid (RB two piece and Motul 600) so I tore it all apart. The calipers all seem fine, but I noticed when I pulled the front rotors off they have what appears to be grease behind the rotor surface on the hub. I am curious - does Ford apply this to keep the rotors from rusting to the hubs?

I fear I melted the grease in the wheel bearings, but since they are sealed can’t repack them - instead they are replaced as a unit.

Anyone find the same when pulling their rotors the first time (these are original)

Thank much.


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[me32]

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[M91196]

Don’t own GT500 but do own regular 14 TP GT that I had the rear rotors off for a swap. I’ve never seen antisieze on any brake components or any factory components I can recall, on any car I worked on in my limited experience. I’ve seen front hubs spit grease all over the inner barrel of a wheel.

 

[raustin0017]

In the 13/14 Ford Service Manual...there is mention of "High Temperature Nickel Anti-Seize Lubricant XL-2" being applied during installation of brake rotors.

 

[biminiLX]

This is a pic from Dino.
I upgraded to Boss302S hubs to get ARP studs and they had anti seize on the hubs between the studs. I’m assuming the factory did as well?
Hope this helps.
-J

 

[Dinosgt]

In the 13/14 Ford Service Manual...there is mention of "High Temperature Nickel Anti-Seize Lubricant XL-2" being applied during installation of brake rotors.

Fantastic. I think this is what I am seeing. It doesn’t look like it ran out of the bearings to me.

Might go J’s route with the FRPP stuff because...racecar . But for now I’m bolting on these suckers...

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[Dinosgt]

This is a pic from Dino.
I upgraded to Boss302S hubs to get ARP studs and they had anti seize on the hubs between the studs. I’m assuming the factory did as well?
Hope this helps.
-J

Many thanks J. Appreciate the collective wisdom of SVT performance.


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[Snoopy49]

In the 13/14 Ford Service Manual...there is mention of "High Temperature Nickel Anti-Seize Lubricant XL-2" being applied during installation of brake rotors.

I noticed that too, but it is not clear where to apply the lube.
Check out page 6 and you will see what I mean.

Disc Brake System.pdf

 

[Dinosgt]

I noticed that too, but it is not clear where to apply the lube.
Check out page 6 and you will see what I mean.

Disc Brake System.pdf

I saw this online which is what made me think they come with the anti seize

https://acdn.americanmuscle.com/i/20140117072744_1546.jpg


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[Dinosgt]

Btw most of the stuff I have found isn’t nickel. Is there something special about nickel vs the other permatex type mixes?


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[Snoopy49]

Btw most of the stuff I have found isn’t nickel. Is there something special about nickel vs the other permatex type mixes?


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It may have to do with dissimilar metal corrosion or it's ability to handle 2400° F temperatures.

High Temperature Nickel Anti-Seize Lubricant XL-2

 

[Snoopy49]

Loctite - Nickel Anti-Seize 77124
Copper-free anti-seize compound for harsh environs.

• Loctite - 8OZ CAN ANTI SEIZE COMPOUND NICKEL.
• Penetrant and lubricant with copper-free formulation.
• Made with graphite, mineral oil and nickel.
• Helps prevent seizing, galling and corrosion.
• Great for use in harsh temperatures and chemical environments.
• Usable on stainless steel and most metals.
• Also resistant to acid, ammonia, acetylene and vinyl monomer.

 

[Snoopy49]

Ford XL-2 High Temperature Nickel Anti-Seize Lubricant
Nickel Anti-Seize Lubricant protects metal parts from seizing and galling at temperatures up to 2400°F. Copper-free, this lubricant is for use under conditions of extreme pressure and temperature, with stainless steel, titanium and nickel alloys. From special mission, job-specific lubricants, protectants and dressings, to the rigors of heavy-duty needs, bring you reliability and problem-solving solutions that extend the life of your equipment.

 

[tomshep]

Where did you get the Loctite version?

I've had one for probably 20 years and finally running/drying out. I love that stuff!!!

Tom

 

[Dinosgt]

Ford XL-2 High Temperature Nickel Anti-Seize Lubricant
Nickel Anti-Seize Lubricant protects metal parts from seizing and galling at temperatures up to 2400°F. Copper-free, this lubricant is for use under conditions of extreme pressure and temperature, with stainless steel, titanium and nickel alloys. From special mission, job-specific lubricants, protectants and dressings, to the rigors of heavy-duty needs, bring you reliability and problem-solving solutions that extend the life of your equipment.

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Awesome. Thanks as always snoopy. Great info. I guess I will get the right stuff.


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[Snoopy49]

Where did you get the Loctite version?

I've had one for probably 20 years and finally running/drying out. I love that stuff!!!

Tom

They have it on Amazon.
Loctite 77164 Nickel Anti-Seize, 16 oz., 1 lb. Can
This is a good deal on a 16 oz can $18.69 + $5.49 Shipping

 

[Snoopy49]

This is from The 2014 Mustang Service Manual
Rear brake rotor installation.
It talks about the use of the Anti-Seize Lubricant.
Rear Brake Disc.pdf

NOTICE:
Do not allow the lubricant to make contact with the wheel studs, brake pads or brake disc or damage to components may occur.

Apply a thin coat of the specified anti-seize lubricant to the hub flange.