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<blockquote data-quote="RDJ" data-source="post: 8962332" data-attributes="member: 5905"><p>then I will consider the "have you seen first hand the dif between civilian and military lifestyles" as a poor choice of words on your part. it certainly seemed from that that you do. </p><p> by some. there are those that don't appreciate like the clown that asked me if I was a "fob-it" and failed to follow through on what I told him to do apparently. </p><p> actually I do agree that some are overpayed. by simply changing companies I could double my salary for doing the same work. While that would be nice I don't see the point since I have seniority where I am and I like who I work with. but our pay accomplishes a couple of things. 1. it gets us over to do stuff that the Military is understaffed to do and 2. it kind of compensates us for not being able to carry a weapon and shoot back. This is not so much an issue now as it was in the early days. but if we weren't paid well the Military would be hard pressed to get enough people to accomplish the task at hand because civilians would not be willing to go into a war zone. and by the way .. the KBR people are the worst paid in country. and the TCNs are paid less than the Military. </p><p> I would agree that most probably do "all" however is a stretch LOL </p><p> This depends on the job. In my case the Military I work with DO share the same day to day tasks and duties. There are a few things that are different like some of you guys maintain a serious PT schedule and they have formations and shit where we don't but other than that there is not much difference. there are other jobs that both army and civilians also share the same task and duties as well. Now when you talk about daily patrols outside the wire, counter insurgency, and things like that you are 100% correct. </p><p> who is telling you? I did and do criticize some things that I see wrong and I have a right to voice my opinion. As I said before I think 6 (going on 7) years out there gives me a certain right to do so. My criticism was directed in general terms and while I certainly respect your right to do whatever is within your uniform code that does not mean I am obligated to be comfortable with it or not voice an opinion. As far as I can tell no one in this thread has 'told" you how to do your job. </p><p> Again YOU and your guys may but this is not true for All. And the disrespect that those that spend most of their time outside the wire show to those that don't is appalling to me as a civilian who watches that crap go down. </p><p> yeah this is true but the holster is a choice not a requirement. the other stuff is a requirement and therein lies the difference IN MY OPINION. But again safety procedures all state never point a gun at someone unless you plan or are willing to shoot them. I know the Military teaches the same thing, yet that is exactly what these holsters do in direct contravention to the training and good safety practices. A holster is necessary absolutely, and they all have their drawbacks the obligation IN MY OPINION is to pick the one that has the fewer drawbacks and the less chance of causing serious injury or death. </p><p></p><p>From the sound of things you are responsible with yours and expect your men to do the same and good on you for that. Knowing that however, will not make me and a number of others, judging from some of the responses in this thread, any more comfortable standing behind you in a chow hall line with your weapon pointed at our chests LOL</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RDJ, post: 8962332, member: 5905"] then I will consider the "have you seen first hand the dif between civilian and military lifestyles" as a poor choice of words on your part. it certainly seemed from that that you do. by some. there are those that don't appreciate like the clown that asked me if I was a "fob-it" and failed to follow through on what I told him to do apparently. actually I do agree that some are overpayed. by simply changing companies I could double my salary for doing the same work. While that would be nice I don't see the point since I have seniority where I am and I like who I work with. but our pay accomplishes a couple of things. 1. it gets us over to do stuff that the Military is understaffed to do and 2. it kind of compensates us for not being able to carry a weapon and shoot back. This is not so much an issue now as it was in the early days. but if we weren't paid well the Military would be hard pressed to get enough people to accomplish the task at hand because civilians would not be willing to go into a war zone. and by the way .. the KBR people are the worst paid in country. and the TCNs are paid less than the Military. I would agree that most probably do "all" however is a stretch LOL This depends on the job. In my case the Military I work with DO share the same day to day tasks and duties. There are a few things that are different like some of you guys maintain a serious PT schedule and they have formations and shit where we don't but other than that there is not much difference. there are other jobs that both army and civilians also share the same task and duties as well. Now when you talk about daily patrols outside the wire, counter insurgency, and things like that you are 100% correct. who is telling you? I did and do criticize some things that I see wrong and I have a right to voice my opinion. As I said before I think 6 (going on 7) years out there gives me a certain right to do so. My criticism was directed in general terms and while I certainly respect your right to do whatever is within your uniform code that does not mean I am obligated to be comfortable with it or not voice an opinion. As far as I can tell no one in this thread has 'told" you how to do your job. Again YOU and your guys may but this is not true for All. And the disrespect that those that spend most of their time outside the wire show to those that don't is appalling to me as a civilian who watches that crap go down. yeah this is true but the holster is a choice not a requirement. the other stuff is a requirement and therein lies the difference IN MY OPINION. But again safety procedures all state never point a gun at someone unless you plan or are willing to shoot them. I know the Military teaches the same thing, yet that is exactly what these holsters do in direct contravention to the training and good safety practices. A holster is necessary absolutely, and they all have their drawbacks the obligation IN MY OPINION is to pick the one that has the fewer drawbacks and the less chance of causing serious injury or death. From the sound of things you are responsible with yours and expect your men to do the same and good on you for that. Knowing that however, will not make me and a number of others, judging from some of the responses in this thread, any more comfortable standing behind you in a chow hall line with your weapon pointed at our chests LOL [/QUOTE]
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