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<blockquote data-quote="Heatshield" data-source="post: 14898794" data-attributes="member: 173022"><p><strong>Under Carpet Insulation</strong></p><p></p><p>Jay & Boogie Chilling</p><p></p><p>Sorry, it's a long one.</p><p></p><p>FULL Disclosure - Yes i work for Heatshield Products. I have been working there since 1985 when i was a kid and it was my dad and grandpa. Now it is my dad and i. I am the head peon, dad is always the final word. This is our first post here and i promise myself and anyone else here will to try and be as objective as possible. We will always highlight our products. However if you already have a competitors product in hand and it is similar to ours, the same physics & chemistry (probably) apply. Just keep in mind our temperature ratings and descriptions 99% of the time more accurate. We are an insulation company, and we suck at marketing. We are trying to fix that so hopefully we can help debunk some of the bs that is out there.</p><p></p><p>The absolute best way to stop heat is by stopping it at the heat source with an insulator. Exhaust wrap is nice, but abetter product is our Heatshield Armor. The next best way, is to stop it is on the hot side of the floor pan or firewall. A radiant heat shield barrier underneath stops heat before it gets into the metal. It is really hard to dissipate heat once it is inside. The micro sphere ceramic coatings would actually do better for heat on the hotside (floor pan/firewall)</p><p></p><p>Sound dampers/insulation - A lot of manufacturers will claim, stick this stuff inside to stop heat and sound. The damping sheets with butyl and aluminum (even our own db Suppressor) turn the sound/vibration energy into low level heat. You will notice in the winter when it is freezing for you folks in the northeast, your car is louder because its too cold for these sheets to work as efficiently as they do in say 70-80F. The only way these sheets could be used to stop heat, is if you were to stick them underneath so the foil that dampens the vibration could reflect radiant heat. They may temporarily slow the heat down in the sense it is another layer for heat to pass through, but they do not offer any physical or chemical properties to actually dissipate heat on the inside. </p><p></p><p>So what do you do if you are like me and don't have a lift (sewing machines, weaving machines, braiding machines, but no stinking lift)? I had a friend from Baer brakes complaining about the heat inside his sleeper turbo charged ranger in the Phoenix summers. He was my first test mule. We make a 1/8" thick black textile we use for welding. He put some on his roof/ceiling above his headliner and some under his carpet. He told me that was the first time his AC had ever worked during the summer in Phoenix. </p><p></p><p>Alternate economical solution - go to a big box hardware store, or carpet store and get some of that recycled cotton/jute material and use that under your carpet. IT won't be as efficient as our product, but it's a lot cheaper and should provide some relief. It will sure work a lot better than a sound damper.</p><p></p><p>AC help- You can also try to help your AC out but shielding them with a heat shield sleeve. If you have at least 1" of airspace an aluminumzed sleeve will be very efficient. Again we make it, but you can get them from another company. The trick will be, sealing the ends of the sleeve. Any heat shield sleeve can be a little lose on the line or wire as long as you seal the ends. You can use heat shrink, heat shield tape, zip ties, whatever. The trick is to make sure no heat sneaks in behind the sleeve. </p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Jay</strong> can you post or send a picture of your engine bay/intercooler set up. I'll see if i can help. </p><p></p><p><strong>Boogie</strong> what model of Flir is that? I may want you to take some images on a left/right with your camera if you are interested. We always prefer third parties do videos for us. Its less company propaganda and a better review.</p><p></p><p><strong>Woody6799*</strong> - terrific avatar.</p><p></p><p>Just a heads up, we just finished a video that will go live in a few weeks on our Header Armor. We dropped 700F of header heat down to 140F in a header warranty friendly way. A great way to keep heat out of your car, i wish i could give you a sneak peek, but we still have a little tweaking to do. Keeps your eyes open for it on our YouTube channel. I'll try to stop with the pugs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Heatshield, post: 14898794, member: 173022"] [b]Under Carpet Insulation[/b] Jay & Boogie Chilling Sorry, it's a long one. FULL Disclosure - Yes i work for Heatshield Products. I have been working there since 1985 when i was a kid and it was my dad and grandpa. Now it is my dad and i. I am the head peon, dad is always the final word. This is our first post here and i promise myself and anyone else here will to try and be as objective as possible. We will always highlight our products. However if you already have a competitors product in hand and it is similar to ours, the same physics & chemistry (probably) apply. Just keep in mind our temperature ratings and descriptions 99% of the time more accurate. We are an insulation company, and we suck at marketing. We are trying to fix that so hopefully we can help debunk some of the bs that is out there. The absolute best way to stop heat is by stopping it at the heat source with an insulator. Exhaust wrap is nice, but abetter product is our Heatshield Armor. The next best way, is to stop it is on the hot side of the floor pan or firewall. A radiant heat shield barrier underneath stops heat before it gets into the metal. It is really hard to dissipate heat once it is inside. The micro sphere ceramic coatings would actually do better for heat on the hotside (floor pan/firewall) Sound dampers/insulation - A lot of manufacturers will claim, stick this stuff inside to stop heat and sound. The damping sheets with butyl and aluminum (even our own db Suppressor) turn the sound/vibration energy into low level heat. You will notice in the winter when it is freezing for you folks in the northeast, your car is louder because its too cold for these sheets to work as efficiently as they do in say 70-80F. The only way these sheets could be used to stop heat, is if you were to stick them underneath so the foil that dampens the vibration could reflect radiant heat. They may temporarily slow the heat down in the sense it is another layer for heat to pass through, but they do not offer any physical or chemical properties to actually dissipate heat on the inside. So what do you do if you are like me and don't have a lift (sewing machines, weaving machines, braiding machines, but no stinking lift)? I had a friend from Baer brakes complaining about the heat inside his sleeper turbo charged ranger in the Phoenix summers. He was my first test mule. We make a 1/8" thick black textile we use for welding. He put some on his roof/ceiling above his headliner and some under his carpet. He told me that was the first time his AC had ever worked during the summer in Phoenix. Alternate economical solution - go to a big box hardware store, or carpet store and get some of that recycled cotton/jute material and use that under your carpet. IT won't be as efficient as our product, but it's a lot cheaper and should provide some relief. It will sure work a lot better than a sound damper. AC help- You can also try to help your AC out but shielding them with a heat shield sleeve. If you have at least 1" of airspace an aluminumzed sleeve will be very efficient. Again we make it, but you can get them from another company. The trick will be, sealing the ends of the sleeve. Any heat shield sleeve can be a little lose on the line or wire as long as you seal the ends. You can use heat shrink, heat shield tape, zip ties, whatever. The trick is to make sure no heat sneaks in behind the sleeve. [B] Jay[/B] can you post or send a picture of your engine bay/intercooler set up. I'll see if i can help. [B]Boogie[/B] what model of Flir is that? I may want you to take some images on a left/right with your camera if you are interested. We always prefer third parties do videos for us. Its less company propaganda and a better review. [B]Woody6799*[/B] - terrific avatar. Just a heads up, we just finished a video that will go live in a few weeks on our Header Armor. We dropped 700F of header heat down to 140F in a header warranty friendly way. A great way to keep heat out of your car, i wish i could give you a sneak peek, but we still have a little tweaking to do. Keeps your eyes open for it on our YouTube channel. I'll try to stop with the pugs. [/QUOTE]
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