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Brother trying to join the Military. Need advice.
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<blockquote data-quote="svtfocus2cobra" data-source="post: 14580298" data-attributes="member: 21786"><p>My opinion is that the standards are down right now and I'm speaking from Marine Corps infantry. I think this is due to the mentality of the Marines that are still joining at this time. They are joining to go fight a war which they won't get to do and they soon realize that when they hit their first unit and hear that they will be going on ship or to Oki for deployment with no Afghanistan or Syria in sight. When I was a squad leader with 3/1 keeping guys motivated with a combat mindset was extremely difficult because they were privileged to just as much information you were so they knew if they were in harms way or not, and that did affect their attitudes overall. </p><p></p><p>I and many of my peers were big advocates against this pussification that was taking place by the higher ups who were making examples of anyone who went against the new standards that were coming down the chain. Everything was hazing. Even if you humiliated someone the wrong way you might be brought in for questioning about your intentions. That's bullshit! We knew what kept the gears greased in the command which was an old-corps mentality. That's what these guys were here for... to live a hard life and to be hardened, but higher did all they could to prevent that or at least oversee it which was counterproductive. </p><p></p><p>And sure enough, 5 months out of the Marines my buddy Alec who was a newly promoted Cpl right before he got out and one of our most infamous gets a text from our LT who was now Co Cmdr asking how to get everyone motivated again. He said no one there cares anymore and no one wants to try, it's basically all a joke to the enlisted Marines. He admitted we were right in wanting to live by old school standards because without it guys got comfortable knowing they weren't going to get their asses kicked and were safe from that kind of treatment. Our LT said it's regulations coming down from no lower than Division and that the Battalion is just as frustrated as the companies, but they have no real options. </p><p></p><p>So, we are either looking at a generational struggle in that we have a generation of warriors stuck in a job that will no longer allow them to be warriors, or we have a government and higher military actively seeking to weaken the fighter spirit of the branches. I get that discipline is a good thing but the mentality I saw was not that of an organization ready to fight, but rather one trying to avoid confrontation from overseeing entities.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="svtfocus2cobra, post: 14580298, member: 21786"] My opinion is that the standards are down right now and I'm speaking from Marine Corps infantry. I think this is due to the mentality of the Marines that are still joining at this time. They are joining to go fight a war which they won't get to do and they soon realize that when they hit their first unit and hear that they will be going on ship or to Oki for deployment with no Afghanistan or Syria in sight. When I was a squad leader with 3/1 keeping guys motivated with a combat mindset was extremely difficult because they were privileged to just as much information you were so they knew if they were in harms way or not, and that did affect their attitudes overall. I and many of my peers were big advocates against this pussification that was taking place by the higher ups who were making examples of anyone who went against the new standards that were coming down the chain. Everything was hazing. Even if you humiliated someone the wrong way you might be brought in for questioning about your intentions. That's bullshit! We knew what kept the gears greased in the command which was an old-corps mentality. That's what these guys were here for... to live a hard life and to be hardened, but higher did all they could to prevent that or at least oversee it which was counterproductive. And sure enough, 5 months out of the Marines my buddy Alec who was a newly promoted Cpl right before he got out and one of our most infamous gets a text from our LT who was now Co Cmdr asking how to get everyone motivated again. He said no one there cares anymore and no one wants to try, it's basically all a joke to the enlisted Marines. He admitted we were right in wanting to live by old school standards because without it guys got comfortable knowing they weren't going to get their asses kicked and were safe from that kind of treatment. Our LT said it's regulations coming down from no lower than Division and that the Battalion is just as frustrated as the companies, but they have no real options. So, we are either looking at a generational struggle in that we have a generation of warriors stuck in a job that will no longer allow them to be warriors, or we have a government and higher military actively seeking to weaken the fighter spirit of the branches. I get that discipline is a good thing but the mentality I saw was not that of an organization ready to fight, but rather one trying to avoid confrontation from overseeing entities. [/QUOTE]
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