Bonneville Salt Flats + Formula One

[bchisom99]

http://www.bonneville400.com/flash/default.aspx

in 13 days BAR Honda's Forumla One Team will attempt 400Km/H on the salt flats....looks sweet...

personally I think with the right gearing and the fact that they are basically unrestricted on engine performance 400 should be pretty easy and will be passed.....

 

[jerrad]

I have alway's wondered how fast a funny car could go on the flats if you geared it towards that you know. Wonder how they'll do?

 

[NewKid]

That should be intresting. Formula One is some of the best racing out there.

 

[DARKSTI]

whats that im mph?

 

[BigSweezey]

rough guess 240mph I think.

 

[LogiWorld123]

http://www.google.com/search?client...400+km/h+in+miles+per+hour&btnG=Google+Search


Google knows.

 

[Fiveoh93Snake]

rough guess 240mph I think.

Geez that doesn't even seem like it would be difficult at all; think it was last year Nascar did a test at Talladega and had Rusty Wallace go around Dega doing some testing UNrestricted and they claimed speeds were right at 225 mph; he was joking about it afterwards saying down the backstretch and through tri-oval he was wideopen but just before entering turns he had to lift and car would slide almost all the way up to wall. What a friggin ride. I would think an F1 car oughta be able to get up round 275.

 

[cobra_4]

Yeah they should be able to hit on up there. Rusty hit 230 at the end of the back stretch in both of his unrestriced tests at Talledega. Surley an F1 could top that by a bunch. Hell Indy cars can average 230 around indianapolis.

 

[bchisom99]

Yeah they should be able to hit on up there. Rusty hit 230 at the end of the back stretch in both of his unrestriced tests at Talledega. Surley an F1 could top that by a bunch. Hell Indy cars can average 230 around indianapolis.

yeah, I'm thinking that 400kl/h or 240mph is probably a lowball, they are allegedly running a new engine that turns upwards or twenty two THOUSAND revs and is closer to 1100 or 1200 hp.....a nasty top gear should get they way above 240....but we will see!!!

 

[oldmodman]

One important factor about Bonneville that you don't have to worry about on a track. Your running on salt. The traction can be all over the place. You can hook up just fine at the two mile and be sliding all over the place at the three, even with two thousand pounds of downforce. I have run bikes there and it's a really strange feeling to suddenly see your tach go from 8500 to 13,000 when you hit a slippery spot. One year the traction was so bad that I had to gear for 236 just to hit 180, that's 46mph of wheelspin going through the timing traps.
I bet the F-1 cars could hit over 300mph on concrete but may only go 250 on the salt.

 

[blu88notch]

400 is equal to about 248 mph.

 

[bchisom99]

One important factor about Bonneville that you don't have to worry about on a track. Your running on salt. The traction can be all over the place. You can hook up just fine at the two mile and be sliding all over the place at the three, even with two thousand pounds of downforce. I have run bikes there and it's a really strange feeling to suddenly see your tach go from 8500 to 13,000 when you hit a slippery spot. One year the traction was so bad that I had to gear for 236 just to hit 180, that's 46mph of wheelspin going through the timing traps.
I bet the F-1 cars could hit over 300mph on concrete but may only go 250 on the salt.

good post, never thought about that, I can imagine that trying to laydown 1000lbs of torque might be tricky on salt...

 

[50 BMG]

I bet the F-1 cars could hit over 300mph on concrete but may only go 250 on the salt.

No way would it hit 300 MPH.

F1 cars have really bad aero at absolute speeds cause the wheels are exposed to the wind. If they hit 400 Kph I'd be suprised...

good post, never thought about that, I can imagine that trying to laydown 1000lbs of torque might be tricky on salt...

Especially when the car you're in only weighs 200 lbs more...

 

[bchisom99]

No way would it hit 300 MPH.

F1 cars have really bad aero at absolute speeds cause the wheels are exposed to the wind. If they hit 400 Kph I'd be suprised...



Especially when the car you're in only weighs 200 lbs more...

200lbs more than an F1 car???? I think you might be crazy. . . oke:

 

[lightninmike]

200lbs more than an F1 car???? I think you might be crazy. . . oke:

200 lbs more than the tq it puts out, pretty sure thats what he means

 

[NotoriousJaegs]

good post, never thought about that, I can imagine that trying to laydown 1000lbs of torque might be tricky on salt...

Assuming you are speaking relative to the topic, that is a a bit unrealistic of an expectation for a N/A 3 liter V10. Those Honda boys have been making quite an impressive mill for a couple seasons now, but not 1000 foot-pound torque engine output. Now, if you are factoring in gearing and calculating the force applied to the contact patch, then I apologize ;-)
The revs are what give F1 engines their power, I hope that Honda brings these 22k rpm engines to Brazil this weekend and sticks them in the craw of one of those fricken Renaults! :fm:

 

[50 BMG]

200 lbs more than the tq it puts out, pretty sure thats what he means

Ya, you're right.