How does evwryone like the shifter with the bracket thinking about gettin one and want to know if its really worth the money. I like to race so I know I need to upgrade
barton shifter
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100 times better than the stock stuff i wouldnt have it any other way
Nice. Thanks for the help
Hated my Barton. No matter what I did it would not go in third. Bought an mgw and will never look back. Was worth the extra money. Mgw=butter. Barton=noisey notchy pos.
If you are going to spend the money for the barton shifter and two post, get the MGW.
It is a far more involved install with the MGW, but 100% worth it as it is a far better unit.
It is a far more involved install with the MGW, but 100% worth it as it is a far better unit.
I have the Barton 2 post. Yes it made the shift's more positive and controlled than the stock POS but the car has so much drivetrain vibration it feels like you're driving a cement mixer! Not to mention, it lets noise through and I had trouble going into 3rd with it the other night.
I will be switching to the MGW in the spring when I feel like going through it again.
I will be switching to the MGW in the spring when I feel like going through it again.
I bought my Barton with the standard bracket second hand. If I had paid full price I would have went MGW. Just bought a steeda with bracket while they were on sale and trying it out, it should be here this week. The Barton is nice, kind of noisy but very good. I have been locked out of second once at the track and that's it... except when I got locked out of fifth the other night.
Shifter won't 100% fix that. Poly Motor mounts are extremely helpful too. Even though you may put a super solid shifter and bracket in, the trans can still twist with the engine. Motor mounts will help keep the engine from twisting and in turn the trans too.
I love my barton and 2 post. it does add noise and you can feel the vibrations though the shifter more. I daily drive my car and couldnt imagine not having the shifter at this point . I drove a stock GT the other day and couldnt believe how long the throws were on the stock shifter, felt like a toy in my hand compared to how positive and direct the shifts are with the barton. Imo if you are getting locked out of 3rd or second its more of a clutch issue or the shifter is not installed correctly. I removed my assist spring on the clutch pedal at the same time as the barton install and will never look back. i havent had a single issue other than 5th gear. I think 5th requires a slightly slower action than the other gears for some reason. this was the case with the stock shifter as well.
Here's my take. If you are worried about the extra noise from your "muscle car" then the barton with the 2 post bracket is not for you (havent tried the other bracket to compare the NVH). If you dont mind a little extra noise, and plan on tracking the car i think the shifter is a must have. Its more pricey than the rest but probably one of my favorite things about the car. After driving mine for so long then driving a stock car i was blown away by the difference.
Here's my take. If you are worried about the extra noise from your "muscle car" then the barton with the 2 post bracket is not for you (havent tried the other bracket to compare the NVH). If you dont mind a little extra noise, and plan on tracking the car i think the shifter is a must have. Its more pricey than the rest but probably one of my favorite things about the car. After driving mine for so long then driving a stock car i was blown away by the difference.
Having owned both now, the MGW is as quiet as stock and far smoother than the barton.
You don't have to have all the NVH and have a good shifter. The barton was nice, but I wouldn't buy it again over the MGW.
That's what I've been hearing. What all did you do when you installed the MGW? (Removed spring, clutch line, retainer, etc.)
MGW is the Bomb.
I just installed the MGW on jackstands in my garage last week on my 2010. Let me tell you, you will without a doubt thank yourself and smile every time you shift your car. Its quiet its fast, positive. It makes shifting FUN!! No if and's or butts.
Mark your drive shaft, drop the front to give yourself some room... its a 2 hour job. The front shoulder pins can be a challenge to get them to release but once you get them released its cake. It comes with a GREAT install video as well.
PM me when you get it and if you have any questions.
Another install tip, I wrapped the shift legs that mount to the tranny with the provided dynomat.
MGW FTW for sure. :thumbsup:
Greg
I just installed the MGW on jackstands in my garage last week on my 2010. Let me tell you, you will without a doubt thank yourself and smile every time you shift your car. Its quiet its fast, positive. It makes shifting FUN!! No if and's or butts.
Mark your drive shaft, drop the front to give yourself some room... its a 2 hour job. The front shoulder pins can be a challenge to get them to release but once you get them released its cake. It comes with a GREAT install video as well.
PM me when you get it and if you have any questions.
Another install tip, I wrapped the shift legs that mount to the tranny with the provided dynomat.
MGW FTW for sure. :thumbsup:
Greg
I'd like to get an after market shift knob for it. CJP has a Blue one similar to DIB. Is there any extra hardware I would need for that?
Depends on the shift lever thread pitch. MGW has their own thread pitch, so you can use their shift knobs, or you can opt for the stock thread pitch. If you go with stock, there shouldn't be any extras aside from a boot collar to go with the knob.
Alright, perfect. Thanks for the help.
installed my barton about a week ago and I love it! my only complaint is on shifting into first I get caught on the reverse lockout. other than that yes its louder on shifts. I did not get the two post bracket I got the one step under it. it shifts like a champ!
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