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<blockquote data-quote="thePill" data-source="post: 13834106" data-attributes="member: 119504"><p>He can't elaborate... I guess it's just going to be a copy and paste platform then? No effort put forth on changing anything I take it? At least, that's how he seems to be putting it. If Chevy would have made a dedicated platform for the Camaro instead of another hand me down.</p><p></p><p>Can we really consider a sports coupe "World Class" when it is a derivative of a sedan? Then, it was given to Caddy, I guess they spent zero dollar as well. I can see where this platform is going to be useful. So, from Holden, to Caddy then to the Camaro. To even be considered a World class effort, the platform should originate from the sports coupe don't cha' think?</p><p></p><p>Does anyone in here think the Camaro will share a wheelbase with the Corvette? This guys dancin' around the Alpha platform but doesn't know if it will be the ATS wheelbase or the CTS... You need backseats in the Camaro... I just don't see a 107 inch wheelbase from the Camaro, again, the Camaro will be a larger car this generation.</p><p></p><p>The Sled Runners used on the ATS platform cannot support a V8... They will need to gain some major weight in this area in order to do so. The CTS platform can already support V8 engine weights.</p><p></p><p>First off bud, if you gotta post season results that only show a 2nd place finish in the standings, you have to question whether to post it at all. The Mustang hasn't slouched in GS since BMW came on board. If it wasn't for teams prepping for the 2015 swap, the results could have been better in 2013... Next season will be even worse due to the late release. The 5.0 and eventually the Boss 302 were put under such heavy restriction, teams in the SCCA protested. Oh well, that is organized Motorsport. The protest worked somewhat...</p><p></p><p>Like I said, it only sounds like sweet rambling nothings to you. The reason being ultimately because you are uninformed on the topic being discussed.</p><p></p><p>Next thing, the ego bullsh!t... I only play the ego when @ssholes are abound. If any of your post had any useful details, I would be inquisitive... If they are speculative, I will usually speculate with you... If your throwing a tantrum because you feel your post become impotent with my counter-arguments, suck it up... Your letting yourself get way too defensive when the Mustang's weight is the topic. If you feel the GT could possibly rival the Corvette on numbers alone, don't let it bother you... I personally do not think the GT will be faster than the Stingray. It will be compared in magazines for sure, I don't think the GT will be sweeping the Corvette do you? The Mustang has it's place, America's Sports Coupe... Which is always naturally slotted below a Sports Car.</p><p></p><p>What if Ford gets the GT-R Package down to Z51 weight with LT1 output?</p><p></p><p>The Camaro is soooooooooooooo close to becoming irrelevant. Once Ford gets all nuzzled in, as close to the Stingray as possible, the Camaro will be literally stuck in 2nd without the ability to counter. Chevy will never let a $40,000 dollar Camaro push into the $60,000 Corvette's performance range. That is a HUGE issue they will eventually have to deal with.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thePill, post: 13834106, member: 119504"] He can't elaborate... I guess it's just going to be a copy and paste platform then? No effort put forth on changing anything I take it? At least, that's how he seems to be putting it. If Chevy would have made a dedicated platform for the Camaro instead of another hand me down. Can we really consider a sports coupe "World Class" when it is a derivative of a sedan? Then, it was given to Caddy, I guess they spent zero dollar as well. I can see where this platform is going to be useful. So, from Holden, to Caddy then to the Camaro. To even be considered a World class effort, the platform should originate from the sports coupe don't cha' think? Does anyone in here think the Camaro will share a wheelbase with the Corvette? This guys dancin' around the Alpha platform but doesn't know if it will be the ATS wheelbase or the CTS... You need backseats in the Camaro... I just don't see a 107 inch wheelbase from the Camaro, again, the Camaro will be a larger car this generation. The Sled Runners used on the ATS platform cannot support a V8... They will need to gain some major weight in this area in order to do so. The CTS platform can already support V8 engine weights. First off bud, if you gotta post season results that only show a 2nd place finish in the standings, you have to question whether to post it at all. The Mustang hasn't slouched in GS since BMW came on board. If it wasn't for teams prepping for the 2015 swap, the results could have been better in 2013... Next season will be even worse due to the late release. The 5.0 and eventually the Boss 302 were put under such heavy restriction, teams in the SCCA protested. Oh well, that is organized Motorsport. The protest worked somewhat... Like I said, it only sounds like sweet rambling nothings to you. The reason being ultimately because you are uninformed on the topic being discussed. Next thing, the ego bullsh!t... I only play the ego when @ssholes are abound. If any of your post had any useful details, I would be inquisitive... If they are speculative, I will usually speculate with you... If your throwing a tantrum because you feel your post become impotent with my counter-arguments, suck it up... Your letting yourself get way too defensive when the Mustang's weight is the topic. If you feel the GT could possibly rival the Corvette on numbers alone, don't let it bother you... I personally do not think the GT will be faster than the Stingray. It will be compared in magazines for sure, I don't think the GT will be sweeping the Corvette do you? The Mustang has it's place, America's Sports Coupe... Which is always naturally slotted below a Sports Car. What if Ford gets the GT-R Package down to Z51 weight with LT1 output? The Camaro is soooooooooooooo close to becoming irrelevant. Once Ford gets all nuzzled in, as close to the Stingray as possible, the Camaro will be literally stuck in 2nd without the ability to counter. Chevy will never let a $40,000 dollar Camaro push into the $60,000 Corvette's performance range. That is a HUGE issue they will eventually have to deal with. [/QUOTE]
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