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2013-14 Shelby GT500
2013 GT500 Track/Perf Package vs. 2013 Boss LS - Primarily for Road Racing Ability?
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<blockquote data-quote="Ry_Trapp0" data-source="post: 11936282" data-attributes="member: 27761"><p>you should've put the camaro ZL1 in the poll so i could intentionally not vote for the "fastest" car on the list, because the boss 302 is simply a 100% unquestionably better track car - <em>regardless of the track times</em>. vorshlag motorsports has been running a 2011 mustang GT for a while now and one of their recent events was one of the 'optima face off' events. here's an excerpt of one portion of the track event from their write up...</p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>"Top Ten Track Shoot-out</em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em></em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>This was another non-points event they held, run after the day's "BFG Hot Lap Challenge" track time was done. The ten fastest cars were called up to the grid, lined from fastest to slowest, and they wanted us to make a 5 lap sprint to the checkered flag. The announcer said it was all about getting to the flag first, and I tried to ask someone on pit road if this was indeed the case. Ed was talking to me on the phone during the whole session again, and passing along lap times, announcer's and crowd's feedback, etc. As far as we knew it was about working your way up through the pack and getting to the finish line first. They lined up Lewis' ZR1 in front, then the LPE Camaro was supposed to be 2nd (but it caught on fire late in the day, then was pouring transmission fluid onto the exhaust by now and wasn't allowed to run) so they moved me up from 3rd place. The rest of the field was behind me, but all I had eyes for was the ZR1 Corvette. They sent us out 15 seconds apart, and we were supposed to NOT pass on the out lap (yellow flag out lap were the rules for the day), but after the green flag dropped it was on.</em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em></em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>I tore ass through pit-out and was catching the ZR1 by turn 3. I knew how each of the top 10 cars were performing from running so many sessions that day - everyone was running hot, taking cool down laps, or only making 1-2 lap sessions. I felt like I could push the Mustang 10/10ths on a 5 lap sprint without slowing down more than a second from my fastest time all day. Driving Flat Out for each lap wouldn't make for the fastest peak time, but it could allow me to pass faster cars. And the only one faster left was the ZR1. So on the out lap I hauled ass, caught up to Loise's Corvette, and painted his mirrors red with Mustang. I wasn't going to pass him on the warm up lap, but I was letting him know I was back here. "Hi, Louis!" He saw me swerving back and forth, as I was baiting him to push it hard on the out lap. That boosted ZR1 had about 1 fast lap in it, but the Mustang could lay down 5 heaters... </em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em></em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>He fell for it by turn 5, put the hammer down, and we were in a sprint race on the out lap! Come on, heat soak that intercooler! By the time we were at the green flag I think there was 8 or so car lengths between us and he was hanging it out trying to gap me. I pushed as hard as I could on the first timed lap and ran a 2:04 to Lewiz's 2:00. On lap 2 the ZR1 was cooking, the intercooler was heat-soaked, and I got a hasty point by into turn 3, which I took with a smile! Ed was hooting and hollering, saying that the announcer and the crowd was going nuts! "Pass him! Pass him!" I got around the ZR1 and opened up a huge gap. The ZR1 slowed to a 2:38 on lap two. Now that I was in the lead I drove like a man possessed, pushing to the limit, and the tires quickly overheated."</em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><a href="http://www.corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=952790#post952790" target="_blank">Vorshlag 2011 Mustang GT 5.0 - auto-x/track build - Page 15 - Corner-Carvers Forums</a></p><p>their mustang has high end coilovers(since vorshlag is a dealer for AST and moton shocks), regular bolt ons under hood(intake, exhaust, tune, etc.), wheels and tires of course, and the 302LS splitter with a BIG rear wing.</p><p>the corvette ZR1 mentioned above is 100% fully BUILT by LG motorsports(lou gigliotti's shop - nothing more needs to be said). the engine is built, producing 8xxHP, it has suspension work, a big splitter and wing, wheels/tires, carbon ceramic brakes, etc.</p><p></p><p>needless to say, the LG motorsports ZR1 <em>significantly outperforms</em> vorshlag's mustang GT in every single performance metric - yet the mustang was running faster on lap 2 because the ZR1 heat soaked. the LG crew aren't idiots either, they've made cooling mods to the ZR1 and they've raced it in numerous events since 2009(IIRC), including setting the record at the <a href="http://www.corvetteonline.com/news/video-lg-motorsports-dominates-the-2011-spectre-341-challenge/" target="_blank">spectre 341 hill climb</a>.</p><p>just something to consider.</p><p></p><p>BTW, anyone considering tracking an S197, i'd suggest reading <a href="http://www.corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44217" target="_blank">this thread</a> from the beginning. LOTS of good info.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ry_Trapp0, post: 11936282, member: 27761"] you should've put the camaro ZL1 in the poll so i could intentionally not vote for the "fastest" car on the list, because the boss 302 is simply a 100% unquestionably better track car - [i]regardless of the track times[/i]. vorshlag motorsports has been running a 2011 mustang GT for a while now and one of their recent events was one of the 'optima face off' events. here's an excerpt of one portion of the track event from their write up... [indent][i]"Top Ten Track Shoot-out This was another non-points event they held, run after the day's "BFG Hot Lap Challenge" track time was done. The ten fastest cars were called up to the grid, lined from fastest to slowest, and they wanted us to make a 5 lap sprint to the checkered flag. The announcer said it was all about getting to the flag first, and I tried to ask someone on pit road if this was indeed the case. Ed was talking to me on the phone during the whole session again, and passing along lap times, announcer's and crowd's feedback, etc. As far as we knew it was about working your way up through the pack and getting to the finish line first. They lined up Lewis' ZR1 in front, then the LPE Camaro was supposed to be 2nd (but it caught on fire late in the day, then was pouring transmission fluid onto the exhaust by now and wasn't allowed to run) so they moved me up from 3rd place. The rest of the field was behind me, but all I had eyes for was the ZR1 Corvette. They sent us out 15 seconds apart, and we were supposed to NOT pass on the out lap (yellow flag out lap were the rules for the day), but after the green flag dropped it was on. I tore ass through pit-out and was catching the ZR1 by turn 3. I knew how each of the top 10 cars were performing from running so many sessions that day - everyone was running hot, taking cool down laps, or only making 1-2 lap sessions. I felt like I could push the Mustang 10/10ths on a 5 lap sprint without slowing down more than a second from my fastest time all day. Driving Flat Out for each lap wouldn't make for the fastest peak time, but it could allow me to pass faster cars. And the only one faster left was the ZR1. So on the out lap I hauled ass, caught up to Loise's Corvette, and painted his mirrors red with Mustang. I wasn't going to pass him on the warm up lap, but I was letting him know I was back here. "Hi, Louis!" He saw me swerving back and forth, as I was baiting him to push it hard on the out lap. That boosted ZR1 had about 1 fast lap in it, but the Mustang could lay down 5 heaters... He fell for it by turn 5, put the hammer down, and we were in a sprint race on the out lap! Come on, heat soak that intercooler! By the time we were at the green flag I think there was 8 or so car lengths between us and he was hanging it out trying to gap me. I pushed as hard as I could on the first timed lap and ran a 2:04 to Lewiz's 2:00. On lap 2 the ZR1 was cooking, the intercooler was heat-soaked, and I got a hasty point by into turn 3, which I took with a smile! Ed was hooting and hollering, saying that the announcer and the crowd was going nuts! "Pass him! Pass him!" I got around the ZR1 and opened up a huge gap. The ZR1 slowed to a 2:38 on lap two. Now that I was in the lead I drove like a man possessed, pushing to the limit, and the tires quickly overheated."[/i] [url=http://www.corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=952790#post952790]Vorshlag 2011 Mustang GT 5.0 - auto-x/track build - Page 15 - Corner-Carvers Forums[/url][/indent] their mustang has high end coilovers(since vorshlag is a dealer for AST and moton shocks), regular bolt ons under hood(intake, exhaust, tune, etc.), wheels and tires of course, and the 302LS splitter with a BIG rear wing. the corvette ZR1 mentioned above is 100% fully BUILT by LG motorsports(lou gigliotti's shop - nothing more needs to be said). the engine is built, producing 8xxHP, it has suspension work, a big splitter and wing, wheels/tires, carbon ceramic brakes, etc. needless to say, the LG motorsports ZR1 [i]significantly outperforms[/i] vorshlag's mustang GT in every single performance metric - yet the mustang was running faster on lap 2 because the ZR1 heat soaked. the LG crew aren't idiots either, they've made cooling mods to the ZR1 and they've raced it in numerous events since 2009(IIRC), including setting the record at the [url="http://www.corvetteonline.com/news/video-lg-motorsports-dominates-the-2011-spectre-341-challenge/"]spectre 341 hill climb[/url]. just something to consider. BTW, anyone considering tracking an S197, i'd suggest reading [url="http://www.corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44217"]this thread[/url] from the beginning. LOTS of good info. [/QUOTE]
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