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<blockquote data-quote="Harley#356" data-source="post: 10580383" data-attributes="member: 62603"><p>So I've proven the blue truck was actually the 3.7 N/A and not the 3.5 EB, and you still can't accept that, and now trying to say maybe they had the 3.5 EB tuned up and hopped up so it felt faster for the Ford Drive event? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> You're a riot.</p><p></p><p>The 3.5 EB and 6.2 were tied neck & neck in the just under 1/8th mile drag course at the drive event. On the score board of fastest times of the day 1/2 were 3.5 EB and 1/2 were 6.2. The 6.2 has more hp, the 3.5 has almost identical tq and a stronger torque curve. The 3.5 is also lighter. Not sure the gearing in the trucks, but regardless, one truck with more hp, one truck with a better torque curve and a little lighter, that is a recipe for nearly identical 1/8th mile times, so not so hard to imagine it keeping up with the 6.2 in the 1/8th. </p><p></p><p>You want some other 3rd party testing? You obviously didn't search much, info is out there...</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.egmcartech.com/2010/10/28/our-friends-at-edmunds-spot-potential-ecoboost-v6-stang/" target="_blank">Video: PickupTrucks.com pegs 3.7L F150 against EcoBoost V6 in 1/4 Mile - egmCarTech</a></p><p><em>Just recently, PickupTrucks.com took the new EcoBoost F150s to the quarter-mile drag strip at Milan. The results: the <strong>3.7L clocked its quarter mile at 15.87 seconds and 87.69 MPH</strong>, whereas the <strong>EcoBoost tagged its time slip at 14.67 seconds and 94.6 MPH</strong>. According to the site, the EcoBoost bested the V8 half-tons by quite a bit. Not bad.</em></p><p></p><p>14.6 in a bone stock 3.5 EB truck is nothing to scoff at!</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>My 5.4 tows okay and I can pass people as well, but having towed with both and having that direct comparison, it was no contest, the 3.5 EB walks the 5.4!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>At least you're admitting it now you're just stuck in your ways with the prejudice against the V6. I'm not a V6 fan at all either (again, own two blown 5.4 V8's, was three blown 5.4 V8's till I sold my L last year). I'd never buy a N/A V6 truck. Slap the twins on there and it's a different ballgame. BUT, if you're stuck against V6's since "real trucks" come with 8's, are you against OHC as well since "real truck engines" come with pushrods? Better jump to Chevy!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>VOID arguement. Apples to oranges. Drop $7-$10k to do a blower or turbo's on a 5.0 or 6.2 and it's a moot point. The discussion wasn't what has the most potential when dumping $7k+ into it. Of course a blown 5.0 or 6.2 would clean house. $1500 in mods to a 3.5 EB to potentially get 450 hp on stock turbos is a HEFTY gain of 85 hp and enough to wipe a stock 6.2 clean without breaking the bank, or the mileage. Drop $1500 into a 5.0 or 6.2 and you'll be lucky to pickup 30 hp. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah you're right, you're way too manly to watch the torture test video's :rollseyes You wouldnt' want to enlighten yourself at all and realize just how inaccurate some of your arguements are. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What I find impressive is 365 hp, 420 tq with an awesome power band, 11,300 lb tow rating, mid-14's in the 1/4, and 22 mpg. No nothing to drool over a keyboard for, but enough to make it shine amongst the competition. And honestly I did read all these specs before driving one and thought "eh thats nice, I'd never want a V6 though" a lot like yourself. Then once i test drove one I did a 180. So since I was in your shoes on my opinion of the 3.5 EB at 1st, I'll go easy on ya lol. </p><p></p><p>As for attempting to explain to me what a 5.4 is capable of <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> Too funny! Have you seen where I've mentioned I own two (was three) supercharged 5.4 trucks? My HD truck is the worlds fastest street HD truck (was THE worlds fastest HD truck PERIOD till Ronnie Cain built a full tube chassis truck with a 00 HD body). I'm WELL aware of what a 5.4 is capable of. Go to Kenne Bell's website, my truck is featured under their record holder page. They need to update it though because thats my time from 2 years ago...</p><p><a href="http://www.kennebell.net/KBWebsite/Tech_Info_pg/links/HomePage_RaceCars.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.kennebell.net/KBWebsite/Tech_Info_pg/links/HomePage_RaceCars.jpg</a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ford will void your warranty on ANY engine you get tuned, NOT just the ecoboost :nono:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah welcome to the world of going to the extremes to make big power. My 2V modular heads flow enough to lay down 722/772 at the wheels and propel my 19' long truck to 10.3 @ 131, and they're a 5 year old port design. JLP has XR 2V ported heads now that put mine to shame. If I had a stroker 5.4 I'd be well into the 9's. There's a whole group of local JLP trucks with stroked 5.4's running 9's on all boost.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harley#356, post: 10580383, member: 62603"] So I've proven the blue truck was actually the 3.7 N/A and not the 3.5 EB, and you still can't accept that, and now trying to say maybe they had the 3.5 EB tuned up and hopped up so it felt faster for the Ford Drive event? :rolleyes: You're a riot. The 3.5 EB and 6.2 were tied neck & neck in the just under 1/8th mile drag course at the drive event. On the score board of fastest times of the day 1/2 were 3.5 EB and 1/2 were 6.2. The 6.2 has more hp, the 3.5 has almost identical tq and a stronger torque curve. The 3.5 is also lighter. Not sure the gearing in the trucks, but regardless, one truck with more hp, one truck with a better torque curve and a little lighter, that is a recipe for nearly identical 1/8th mile times, so not so hard to imagine it keeping up with the 6.2 in the 1/8th. You want some other 3rd party testing? You obviously didn't search much, info is out there... [url=http://www.egmcartech.com/2010/10/28/our-friends-at-edmunds-spot-potential-ecoboost-v6-stang/]Video: PickupTrucks.com pegs 3.7L F150 against EcoBoost V6 in 1/4 Mile - egmCarTech[/url] [I]Just recently, PickupTrucks.com took the new EcoBoost F150s to the quarter-mile drag strip at Milan. The results: the [B]3.7L clocked its quarter mile at 15.87 seconds and 87.69 MPH[/B], whereas the [B]EcoBoost tagged its time slip at 14.67 seconds and 94.6 MPH[/B]. According to the site, the EcoBoost bested the V8 half-tons by quite a bit. Not bad.[/I] 14.6 in a bone stock 3.5 EB truck is nothing to scoff at! My 5.4 tows okay and I can pass people as well, but having towed with both and having that direct comparison, it was no contest, the 3.5 EB walks the 5.4! At least you're admitting it now you're just stuck in your ways with the prejudice against the V6. I'm not a V6 fan at all either (again, own two blown 5.4 V8's, was three blown 5.4 V8's till I sold my L last year). I'd never buy a N/A V6 truck. Slap the twins on there and it's a different ballgame. BUT, if you're stuck against V6's since "real trucks" come with 8's, are you against OHC as well since "real truck engines" come with pushrods? Better jump to Chevy! VOID arguement. Apples to oranges. Drop $7-$10k to do a blower or turbo's on a 5.0 or 6.2 and it's a moot point. The discussion wasn't what has the most potential when dumping $7k+ into it. Of course a blown 5.0 or 6.2 would clean house. $1500 in mods to a 3.5 EB to potentially get 450 hp on stock turbos is a HEFTY gain of 85 hp and enough to wipe a stock 6.2 clean without breaking the bank, or the mileage. Drop $1500 into a 5.0 or 6.2 and you'll be lucky to pickup 30 hp. Yeah you're right, you're way too manly to watch the torture test video's :rollseyes You wouldnt' want to enlighten yourself at all and realize just how inaccurate some of your arguements are. What I find impressive is 365 hp, 420 tq with an awesome power band, 11,300 lb tow rating, mid-14's in the 1/4, and 22 mpg. No nothing to drool over a keyboard for, but enough to make it shine amongst the competition. And honestly I did read all these specs before driving one and thought "eh thats nice, I'd never want a V6 though" a lot like yourself. Then once i test drove one I did a 180. So since I was in your shoes on my opinion of the 3.5 EB at 1st, I'll go easy on ya lol. As for attempting to explain to me what a 5.4 is capable of :D Too funny! Have you seen where I've mentioned I own two (was three) supercharged 5.4 trucks? My HD truck is the worlds fastest street HD truck (was THE worlds fastest HD truck PERIOD till Ronnie Cain built a full tube chassis truck with a 00 HD body). I'm WELL aware of what a 5.4 is capable of. Go to Kenne Bell's website, my truck is featured under their record holder page. They need to update it though because thats my time from 2 years ago... [url]http://www.kennebell.net/KBWebsite/Tech_Info_pg/links/HomePage_RaceCars.jpg[/url] Ford will void your warranty on ANY engine you get tuned, NOT just the ecoboost :nono: Ah welcome to the world of going to the extremes to make big power. My 2V modular heads flow enough to lay down 722/772 at the wheels and propel my 19' long truck to 10.3 @ 131, and they're a 5 year old port design. JLP has XR 2V ported heads now that put mine to shame. If I had a stroker 5.4 I'd be well into the 9's. There's a whole group of local JLP trucks with stroked 5.4's running 9's on all boost. [/QUOTE]
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