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2011 Ecoboost F150 driving impressions
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<blockquote data-quote="Jroc" data-source="post: 10261305" data-attributes="member: 51847"><p>Trust me man I've seen this in Motocross when 4 strokes slowly started coming in, and making 2 strokes a thing of the past. I'm telling you that's what Fords attempting to do with this ecoboost they're just smart enough to know that they can't just up and drop the v8's and make everyone content. The 2011 F150 is getting 4 new motors. The only one they are really talking about, and trying to push is the Ecoboost. I don't see the 5.0 as being an inferior motor. Would you rather have a SHO, or a 2011 Mustang GT? Still Fords going to do things to give the Ecoboost the higher workload ratings. If the 5.4 can tow withing 100 pounds of what the Ecoboost is rated to tow then that right there tells you that its not all about power. Ford is forcing you to opt for a v6 if you want the best motor/all around package, and that is where my problem comes in. </p><p></p><p>I have a predigests against v6 motors in performance, and work applications. Chevy could build a v6 to destroy a LS7 if they wanted to, but if they tried to push that in a ZO6 Vette fans would throw a fit, regardless of weather or not they still offered base model v8 Vettes. V6's were developed to be economy car motor, and they sound like shit. I have a ton of love for I6's, but I do not like v6's in anything other than economy car, or smaller vehicles like compact trucks. They are good in base F150's, and v6 Mustangs are what make the Mustangs sell what they are, but making them the higherend motor' compared to the v8's is just not cool with me, and a lot of other people as well. </p><p></p><p>Boost gives small motors much bigger capabilities. It does this in EVO's, Supra's, GTR's, 03/04 Cobras, etc. A 5.0 with DI, and TT would destroy a Ecoboost motor in every category other than fuel economy.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If this Ecoboost is so good then it needs to be in the SD's. Why not, the 5.4 was? I mean apparently the Ecoboost is atleast the Boss motors equal in the F150, and Ford sells a hell of a lot of SD's as well, and the SD could sure as hell use some improved fuel economy, and that would give it some diesel style of power without the diesel prices right? My bet is the Ecoboost would not hold up too well in a big SD, and thats why they aren't offered in them.</p><p></p><p>BTW my truck makes 380 HP @ 4,750 rpm and 450 ft·lb @ 3,250 rpm so old POS 2V Modular motor > new Ecoboost unless you're talking MPG's. That just shows you what boost will do for a motor that should otherwise be very inferior. Yes I understand that I have almost another 2 liters, but Ecoboost is much more modern, has DI/VVT/etc, its DOHC with probably much better heads, its TT'ed, and vehicles have just gotten much more powerful in recent years.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jroc, post: 10261305, member: 51847"] Trust me man I've seen this in Motocross when 4 strokes slowly started coming in, and making 2 strokes a thing of the past. I'm telling you that's what Fords attempting to do with this ecoboost they're just smart enough to know that they can't just up and drop the v8's and make everyone content. The 2011 F150 is getting 4 new motors. The only one they are really talking about, and trying to push is the Ecoboost. I don't see the 5.0 as being an inferior motor. Would you rather have a SHO, or a 2011 Mustang GT? Still Fords going to do things to give the Ecoboost the higher workload ratings. If the 5.4 can tow withing 100 pounds of what the Ecoboost is rated to tow then that right there tells you that its not all about power. Ford is forcing you to opt for a v6 if you want the best motor/all around package, and that is where my problem comes in. I have a predigests against v6 motors in performance, and work applications. Chevy could build a v6 to destroy a LS7 if they wanted to, but if they tried to push that in a ZO6 Vette fans would throw a fit, regardless of weather or not they still offered base model v8 Vettes. V6's were developed to be economy car motor, and they sound like shit. I have a ton of love for I6's, but I do not like v6's in anything other than economy car, or smaller vehicles like compact trucks. They are good in base F150's, and v6 Mustangs are what make the Mustangs sell what they are, but making them the higherend motor' compared to the v8's is just not cool with me, and a lot of other people as well. Boost gives small motors much bigger capabilities. It does this in EVO's, Supra's, GTR's, 03/04 Cobras, etc. A 5.0 with DI, and TT would destroy a Ecoboost motor in every category other than fuel economy. If this Ecoboost is so good then it needs to be in the SD's. Why not, the 5.4 was? I mean apparently the Ecoboost is atleast the Boss motors equal in the F150, and Ford sells a hell of a lot of SD's as well, and the SD could sure as hell use some improved fuel economy, and that would give it some diesel style of power without the diesel prices right? My bet is the Ecoboost would not hold up too well in a big SD, and thats why they aren't offered in them. BTW my truck makes 380 HP @ 4,750 rpm and 450 ft·lb @ 3,250 rpm so old POS 2V Modular motor > new Ecoboost unless you're talking MPG's. That just shows you what boost will do for a motor that should otherwise be very inferior. Yes I understand that I have almost another 2 liters, but Ecoboost is much more modern, has DI/VVT/etc, its DOHC with probably much better heads, its TT'ed, and vehicles have just gotten much more powerful in recent years. [/QUOTE]
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