2.2 kb fans good or bad

[StannggerrEd]

I have a question how many of you guys are running the 2.2 kenne bell. What kind of power will these make? I might be able to get one for 800 but it needs a rebuild. Apparently there was some rotor damage, estimated about 1250 to fix.

I would like to be in the 600 hp range.


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[Zemedici]

They'll make mid 500s pulleyed all the way down. They dont make the power a whipple or TVS does, but they scream like a banshee.

That being said, if you snag the KB and get it rebuilt I'll trade you my 2.3 whipple I'd rather have the scream than the horsepower, as my commute is 2 miles.

My car made 630 with a 3.0 upper and 4lb lower.

 

[bigmoose]

KB 2.2 here. I have it pulled with a 2.76" which my gauge reads as 18#s. I made 600+ on 93+torco and 649 on E70 all on 18#s.

Not a great vid but still sounds great. https://youtu.be/eU08_HTEmJg

 

[StannggerrEd]

Thanks guys for the input. I backed out of the deal. It was only 800 for the 2.2 but I was looking anywhere from 1200 to 1400 to rebuild and if the gears are shot well then I'm shit out of luck


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[GodStang]

Made 649rw with my 2.2L on 17psi and 93 octane. Can make over 700 on E85. Nice little blower. They make equal power to the TVS 2.3L and Whipple 2.3L.

 

[StannggerrEd]

Made 649rw with my 2.2L on 17psi and 93 octane. Can make over 700 on E85. Nice little blower. They make equal power to the TVS 2.3L and Whipple 2.3L.

Thanks godstang. I thought they made good power too. Some people tell me it would make in the mid 500d which I felt was really underpowered.

Would any of you guys buy a 2.2 that needs to be rebuilt? The guy is asking 800. He tells me the gears are okay which talking to kenne bell is good since they don't make gears for the 2.2 anymore. But the rotors are kinda shot it looks like. Not sure if it's worth the risk or not

 

[GodStang]

It is the old style with the port on the snout. I really would pass on that unless the servicing of the blower involves going to the new style snout. Also a lot depends on your goals with it.

 

[StannggerrEd]

It is the old style with the port on the snout. I really would pass on that unless the servicing of the blower involves going to the new style snout. Also a lot depends on your goals with it.

I think it was going to be 1600 with the gen2 snout. I would really be happy with a mid 600 hp car. But at the moment don't want to go 2.6 lc yet.

 

[BlckBox04]

is that polished?

 

[StannggerrEd]

is that polished?

What do you mean?

 

[2000GTSTANG]

Go for the 2.2 if you like heatsoak. Im not sure how bad other blowers are compared to this one, but I know mine runs hot and Ive read the same from other people too.

 

[BlckBox04]

where did you find this for sale? If you're not going to take it I want it.

 

[StannggerrEd]

where did you find this for sale? If you're not going to take it I want it.

It's a local group up here in md. Guy does not want to ship. I'm still debating about buying it. Trying to talk the guy down a little in price.

 

[ruthless]

The following is my opinion!

The 2.2KBs tech is WAY behind compared to the new setups. The reason it is so loud is because it is not efficient. I had one and was very disappointed with the performance out of it and it was new so I know it wasn't damaged or worn out. They might put out numbers on the dyno but all those numbers mean are one hit out of the driveway before it is heat soaked and the timing starts to get pulled because the charge air temps shoot up.



With all the newer options out there I would pass. This is coming from a guy that was stock eaton, ported eaton, 2.2KB with supporting mods, custom turbo kit and soon a built engine with the custom turbo kit. All were used on a factory stock engine.

Another warning I have for you is... Don't be fooled by on-line HP numbers. Some people don't share if they have a high compression built engine or stock down to the air cleaner. This leads to disappointments for some when following their advice.

 

[Zemedici]

Thank you. Almost like I know what I'm talking about....650whp out of a 2.2 is severely abnormal, and bet it doesn't make anything NEAR that on the second pass. They heat up like crazy, and hence why they don't make the power of a whipple or TVS.

 

[StannggerrEd]

The following is my opinion!

The 2.2KBs tech is WAY behind compared to the new setups. The reason it is so loud is because it is not efficient. I had one and was very disappointed with the performance out of it and it was new so I know it wasn't damaged or worn out. They might put out numbers on the dyno but all those numbers mean are one hit out of the driveway before it is heat soaked and the timing starts to get pulled because the charge air temps shoot up.

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With all the newer options out there I would pass. This is coming from a guy that was stock eaton, ported eaton, 2.2KB with supporting mods, custom turbo kit and soon a built engine with the custom turbo kit. All were used on a factory stock engine.

Another warning I have for you is... Don't be fooled by on-line HP numbers. Some people don't share if they have a high compression built engine or stock down to the air cleaner. This leads to disappointments for some when following their advice.

Very interesting. Looks like I'm definitely gona be going a different route than.

 

[NVRL8TE]

The following is my opinion!

The 2.2KBs tech is WAY behind compared to the new setups. The reason it is so loud is because it is not efficient. I had one and was very disappointed with the performance out of it and it was new so I know it wasn't damaged or worn out. They might put out numbers on the dyno but all those numbers mean are one hit out of the driveway before it is heat soaked and the timing starts to get pulled because the charge air temps shoot up.

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With all the newer options out there I would pass. This is coming from a guy that was stock eaton, ported eaton, 2.2KB with supporting mods, custom turbo kit and soon a built engine with the custom turbo kit. All were used on a factory stock engine.

Another warning I have for you is... Don't be fooled by on-line HP numbers. Some people don't share if they have a high compression built engine or stock down to the air cleaner. This leads to disappointments for some when following their advice.

Friend has one.. Same deal. One rip on a 50* night, and his IAT's are 150-160+... Worst part, they STAY there, for a LONG time.

 

[bigmoose]

I'm don't disagree with above. On my end I'm running a killer chiller which is basically required with my 2.2KB along with E85, so I do get consistent pulls. However, I bought my car with this blower so it's not worth me switching. If I had an Eaton and wanted to upgrade I'd go TVS all the way.

 

[03cobraracer]

Yeah I have a 2.2 also make 617 with it but I plan to sell it and move to a tvs when I can afford it.

 

[StannggerrEd]

Yeah I have a 2.2 also make 617 with it but I plan to sell it and move to a tvs when I can afford it.

It seems like everyone is going tvs now..... Are they really that good? I'm always skeptical since they are a cheaper option (no offense to anyone who went that route)