03 Cobra vs. C5 Z06

[TrickStang37]

Not that much of a race. Driving home on the highway (monterey rd.), a C5 Z06 pulled next to me and goosed it some and then downshifted. So I downshifted to second too and waited for his move. I gave him the jump (tho Im not sure if he floored it right away, I might have actually gone WOT just barely before him). It started about 30 mph in second and by the end of second I had a car on him and then he either missed a shift or just gave up. He didnt get next to me after that, I was hoping for another, cleaner run with more clear cut results. Most of my pull in second might have been the rwtq difference, there's a good chance I would have stopped pulling or maybe just put another 1/2 car to about 110 or something. Those cars are said to trap 115-117 stock, pretty much in the range im in now. I guess I'll never know.

BTW it was probably stock. Sounded a little loud, might have had a catback but im not sure how loud those years really are. For sure didnt have a cutout and still had cats by the sound of it. It was black and even had dealer plates out back.

 

[Grabber]

Nice run. Just to let you know, even the C5Z06's trapped 120+ in the 1/4 with a good driver. In this case, you beat the driver,not the car.

 

[flowgoode]

Nice run. Just to let you know, even the C5Z06's trapped 120+ in the 1/4 with a good driver. In this case, you beat the driver,not the car.

120+mph stock...are you kidding me?

 

[Red Devil]

Nice run. Just to let you know, even the C5Z06's trapped 120+ in the 1/4 with a good driver. In this case, you beat the driver,not the car.

If you tried your absolute hardest, you couldn't be more wrong than you are right now

 

[S8ER01Z]

120+mph stock...are you kidding me?

x2.

OP, Good kill...the best traps I've seen were 117~118mph and they were on cars that went high 11s stock (very rare, and done at sea level tracks with great DA)...most guys who can drive see 114~116mph traps, only the 'greats' like Ranger see rediculous traps above that. I am sure he let off because it was about to get ugly for him. :coolman:

 

[Grabber]

Here, read some of the responses.

http://www.z06vette.com/forums/f8/whats-fastest-stock-z06-1-4-mile-time-87461/

118 is more then enough to beat your 115-116 car trap. How the **** does a C6Z06 that does not have way more power trap 125+ in the 1/4? The they weigh 3115 lbs, have about 425 HP. The C6 Z06 weighs approx. 3150, and has 505 HP. Yet, they are able to run low-mid 11's, and trap way higher? Does not seem right.

 

[flowgoode]

Here, read some of the responses.

http://www.z06vette.com/forums/f8/whats-fastest-stock-z06-1-4-mile-time-87461/

118 is more then enough to beat your 115-116 car trap. How the **** does a C6Z06 that does not have way more power trap 125+ in the 1/4? The they weigh 3115 lbs, have about 425 HP. The C6 Z06 weighs approx. 3150, and has 505 HP. Yet, they are able to run low-mid 11's, and trap way higher? Does not seem right.

c5z06 have 405hp (at the crank), not 425, so yes another 100hp is good for 8+mph in that range in the 1/4 mile.

 

[Grabber]

Wikipedia says otherwise. In actuality they are underrated and have 425.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Corvette_C5_Z06

 

[flowgoode]

Wikipedia says otherwise. In actuality they are underrated...

that may be true, but so are the c6z06's. I've seen in person a stock c6z06 dyno at 486rwhp. I don't think its only losing 19hp through the drivetrain.

*edit to add*
I used to trap 105mph then I added 100shot of nitrous and was trapping 114mph, took that off and went procharger and now trap 120+mph. In this range of the 1/4mile it's not as hard to pick up MPH.

 

[93 347 Cobra]

Wikipedia says otherwise. In actuality they are underrated and have 425.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Corvette_C5_Z06

You're actually quoting Wikipedia in a car thread? How old are you?

 

[Grabber]

I just used that as an example.

24 FYI.

I love how 99% of the guys here quote drag times, and beat Z06's from rolls. Especially in their powerband. Everyone underestimates Vettes. Top end is always greater then a cobra.

 

[flowgoode]

I love how 99% of the guys here quote drag times, and beat Z06's from rolls. Especially in their powerband. Everyone underestimates Vettes. Top end is always greater then a cobra.

I do believe you were the first one to do so in this thread:

Nice run. Just to let you know, even the C5Z06's trapped 120+ in the 1/4 with a good driver. In this case, you beat the driver,not the car.

 

[Grabber]

I did not quote dragtimes.... Either way, from a roll, racing a car with similar power, and 500+ lbs of less weight, and way more aero, and so much better top end capability. It takes serious power to beat a Z06, whether it is a C5 or C6 from a roll. 496 WHP is not huge power. I've beat LS3's from digs, up to a certain MPH, but I know if the driver did not give up, and kept going, eventually he would pass. Now, from a roll, they move like bat's out of hell.

 

[Blue03Cobra]

Here, read some of the responses.

http://www.z06vette.com/forums/f8/whats-fastest-stock-z06-1-4-mile-time-87461/

118 is more then enough to beat your 115-116 car trap. How the **** does a C6Z06 that does not have way more power trap 125+ in the 1/4? The they weigh 3115 lbs, have about 425 HP. The C6 Z06 weighs approx. 3150, and has 505 HP. Yet, they are able to run low-mid 11's, and trap way higher? Does not seem right.

Actually, the question is: Did YOU read the responses?"

Quote:
Originally Posted by My1stZ
My personal best so far is 12.2 at 120.1 with a 2.05 60'. That is 100% stock, including air filter and air box in place. I'm sure with a better 60' on a well prepped track mid/high 11's would not be hard to get.

BTW, car put down 352/350 on a dyno.

QUOTE:
Originally Posted by Robz
Is that on the stock f1 tires. If so, then you have the highest recorded trap speed ever on a bone stock Zo6.

NOW you come back with 118 instead of 120+. Six years ago, when you were 18 (if you're being truthful), we went through this over and over and over. Evan Smith ran something close to 12.4x @ 115 (MM&FF) in a showroom stock '03 Cobra in ideal conditions and the GM mag ran 11.97 @ 118 in an '02 Z06. Many mileages have varied, since then. Properly pullied Terminators rarely have problems with stock C5 Z06s, tires and conditions being equal. Please do your research *before* you post. Thank you.

 

[Grabber]

Someone pointed out 118, I was going with the flow. Put it this way, when a cobra is in third, what gear is a vette in? Still going through second gear? Try not to talk down to me because of my age. I go by real track times, I've seen, not only magazines, like MM&FF..... Point being, this guy says he traps around 115ish. Trap speeds take effect in rolls, in case you did not know. ET's take place from a dead stop, or in your terms, from digs. So, if a car traps higher, and the person can drive, no reason a vette should lose to a pullied cobra from a roll, and get passed up. I understand weight has less of an effect from a roll, but 500 lbs is not a little amount of weight. Read more into physics please. That's like saying a fat guy can outrun a skinny guy after they've been running. Doesn't make any damn sense. Good kill, you deserve mad props. Even though you only beat the driver.

 

[G2Mach1]

I have beat 3 C5Z06s by a couple car lengths from rolls ranging from 30~60. I do not know if they had any mods or not... they were probably stock. But they were clean kills. However I know the C6Z will rape me....

 

[jlauth]

This have been discussed on this forum before. There is also a race that went down between a stock Z06 and a pullied vert. It was posted a few weeks ago, and was going on for weeks prior to its posting. I will try to find it.

The outcome is Cobra over Z06 in all races.

 

[Roushman]

Cobra's are limp

 

[Grabber]

I do believe it is possible. However, with equal drivers, less weight in favor of the vette, close to 500 lbs, way more aero, and somewhat similar power, it would be a tough match.

It is always good to beat a vette, just to know that your less expensive car ,handed the vette it's ass.

 

[jlauth]

Cobra's are limp

What??? You know that 's shows ownership right?