Ford releasing a supercar Mustang Thursday 17th
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I honestly have no idea what it weighs, but I just don't see how it can weigh much less than a GT500 CFTP. CF body panels and mag wheels aside, it's going to require a lot of cooling, and it's got a bunch of hydraulic shit in it, and that brings weight. BS was around 3,600, static ride height, 285 fronts/335 rear, around 900 lbs of downforce which you can definitely feel on a track. BS does have a pull out front splitter that (shock) Multimatic produced for the car. Otherwise the wing has a small active element.
The trade off for GTD is that the aero in the low mode of the suspension will undoubtedly make for a monster of a car at that ride height. FGT is a different car in track mode and this will be similar. I figure it'll be well north of 1,000 lbs of downforce at 150 and it's got a lot of front/underbody aero going on with absolutely monstrous tires. Should be a real beast.
The trade off for GTD is that the aero in the low mode of the suspension will undoubtedly make for a monster of a car at that ride height. FGT is a different car in track mode and this will be similar. I figure it'll be well north of 1,000 lbs of downforce at 150 and it's got a lot of front/underbody aero going on with absolutely monstrous tires. Should be a real beast.
I wondered from the moment I heard that Ford was going with Pirelli on the S650 if it was because they beat Michelin's bid. The Trofeo is a heck of a tire but better than a Cup2 variant? "Better" can be a subjective term but I'm wondering what metrics the Pirelli may or may not have been better at. The fact that the GTD is using a Michelin is indeed interesting.
I believe it's as simple as "CUP 2R" ; they're the ultimate qualifier / magazine #s tire. If you want to post the best laptime for a street-legal vehicle, there is only one choice right now.
I will be very interested to see how the GTD fares against the MBZ black series. I'm sure Ford has that and the GT3RS in mind when benchmarking the GTD, and I wouldn't be surprised if the GTD is the fastest of the bunch because of its aero and additional tire.
Maybe DBK and I can have a friendly track shootout once the GTD arrives.
You'll both have GTDs haha
I've gone back and forth with Pirelli and Michelin slicks on my car. I find that the newer compound for Michelin, N3, don't fall off as fast.
I never understood the obsession over OEM tires. I remember back in the day dudes be arguing about Evo vs STI and who had more grip on OEM tires. Like, it's a consumable.
Don't fall off as fast as the DH? I have no experience with the N3. I find all slicks fall off after 1 HC anyway lol
It's a very unfortunate part of magazine testing...
I agree with that. With the Pirellis I could get about 8 cycles before they were 4-5 seconds/lap slower. With the Michelins I can get 10-12 before they fall off the same.
I do think the Pirellis from 1-4 are faster, not by a lot, but some.
Interesting, isn't the Michelin a medium compound? Were you adjusting setup between brand swaps?
A bit OT, but I've run both Michelin and Pirelli hard compound slicks on my 488 GT3 back in 2018 . The Michelins were about 1 sec/lap faster than the Pirellis and were good past 200km, while the Pirellis fell off significantly (2-3 sec/lap) after 150km. Both were perfectly useable until about 250km.
These days I run Pirelli DHs on the 458 Challenge cars, and Michelin S8 (medium) on the 488 GT cars. No issues with either.
These days I run Pirelli DHs on the 458 Challenge cars, and Michelin S8 (medium) on the 488 GT cars. No issues with either.
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