Unlawful arrest or idiot who can't follow lawful commands?

I predict Mr Williams will be a rich man in the coming years.

Interesting because you could argue that LACSD had reasonable articulable suspicion to justify the stop.

What say you?

Disgusting!

Dirty.

after all that bullshit trying to stick him with resisting seemed pretty ****ing stupid

DSG2003Mach1 said:

after all that bullshit trying to stick him with resisting seemed pretty ****ing stupid

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It reeks of retaliation due to him "invoking" his 4th and 5th amendment rights.

Gestapo Pigs!

I hope he gets BIG $!

It is a civil lawsuit so he will probably win his case. You can sue for anything now a days and win. I have to say, the officers did articulate why they wanted to talk and interview this suspect. At that point, they due have a right to ask you to step out the vehicle for officer safety and personal safety. And to determine who the person is. If this individual would of complied, it would all been over in a matter of minutes. Instead, he decided to push the issue and took his chances. As for the officers, they were found to be justified in their actions. And that is what I would be worried about as an officer. You can be found guilty in civil court for just about anything.

You guys are ****ing brain washed… pawns of the media / narrative And low IQ morons. There was RAS. There was an active investigation in regards to a crime. Guy looked young. Criminal could have easily switched outfit. Many variables. Guy was given lawful directives. Guy passively resisted and disobeyed lawful commands.

This was way too easy to avoid. Just an ounce of common sense would have had both parties going their way in a few minutes.

Guy is a ****ing idiot / tool. Should be happy he didnt get ****ed up.

This isnt rocket since, people. Whether you agree or not, follow commands. The side of the road is not the place to fight the issue.

The more power you take away from cops, the weaker this nation will become. They werent being unreasonable.

God forbid cops try to investigate a crime… lol.

Sad part is, because of all the wannabe social justice warriors, that fool might just end up winning big money. Token black guy getting hunnits!

2011fiveliter said:

It is a civil lawsuit so he will probably win his case. You can sue for anything now a days and win. I have to say, the officers did articulate why they wanted to talk and interview this suspect. At that point, they due have a right to ask you to step out the vehicle for officer safety and personal safety. And to determine who the person is. If this individual would of complied, it would all been over in a matter of minutes. Instead, he decided to push the issue and took his chances. As for the officers, they were found to be justified in their actions. And that is what I would be worried about as an officer. You can be found guilty in civil court for just about anything.

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"If he would have complied" is a pretty giant assumption.

Although, like I said in the first post, they did communicate their RAS and reason for the stop -- as flawed as it may have been (perp description did not match), I don't have any issue with how LEOs conducted business up until they hit him with false charges and put him in jail.

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God forbid cops try to investigate a crime… lol.

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What part of the "investigation" requires him to be drug out of his car, tied up like an animal, and then hit with false charges (which were dropped -- because they were fake to begin with)?

Curious minds want to know.

gimmie11s said:

What part of the "investigation" requires him to be drug out of his car, tied up like an animal, and then hit with false charges (which were dropped -- because they were fake to begin with)?

Curious minds want to know.

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He was asked to exit the vehicle. He refused.

How can you not understand the bare basics of laws and law enforcement as a full grown man that has lived in this country for X amount of years, successfully?

There was an active investigation going on due to burglary in the area. To the cops, the guy matched the description (whether you agree with that or not, it does not matter). Guy was being actively investigated for a crime. This makes the cops commands lawful. When one is given lawful commands by the police, one obeys commands (whether you agree or not).

You can try to explain whatever your situation is, WHILE OBEYING lawful commands by the police. You dont get to resist, you dont get to dictate how the encounter will go. You are not in command. Cops are. They represent the law and disobedience can carry dyer repercussions.

The investigation required him yo be drug out when he decided to ignore the officers commands. While trying to dictate terms of the encounter and passively resisted.

Charges were valid. They were like dropped to appease the Karens and SJWs and avoid yet another tantrum by the antifa, BLM types.

'Officer Safety" is such a pu$$y/bullshit tactic. 5 of you are surrounding me with guns and you want me...a guy who's sitting in a car having lunch to get out and "follow your commands"...Go %UCK yourself!

There IS a 1st Amendment for a reason.
There IS a 4th Amendment for a reason.
There IS a 5th Amendment for a reason.

Exercising those God Given RIGHTS does NOT constitute being beat up and shackled.

Notice what has happened people… The machine has worked its magic!

Cops are now THE ENEMY. Cops must be attacked and dismantled!

It does not matter that the cops were looking to serve and protect that community (hundreds of people, if not thousands) by catching a burglar and preventing further crime. That does NOT matter.

What matters is that they do not hurt feelings and present themselves in a perfectly politically correct manner. Perfectly inline with all the Karens and arm chair quarterbacks made up ROEs.

The more power we take away from the police force, the more chaotic this country will become. The less safe the communities will be as a whole.

But hey, at least some random tards feelings were not hurt…. Lol.

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'Officer Safety" is such a pu$$y/bullshit tactic. 5 of you are surrounding me with guns and you want me...a guy who's sitting in a car having lunch to get out and "follow your commands"...Go %UCK yourself!

There IS a 1st Amendment for a reason.
There IS a 4th Amendment for a reason.
There IS a 5th Amendment for a reason.

Exercising those God Given RIGHTS does NOT constitute being beat up and shackled.

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What part of “during an active investigation, in which you happen to be a potential suspect, cops can give you LAWFUL commands”, don’t you understand?

Again, while you are investigated for a crime, you can be detained and are required to follow commands.

Cops had articulated the RAS.

Follow commands or get capped.

Its crazy….

Whats sad is that this ideology that cops need to cuddle your feelings and obey your commands, while investigating you for a potentially dangerous crime, has infiltrated its way into this forum….

This same place where you find mostly reasonable and conservative people… people that understand how society is held together…

SAD, bros…

He had (We ALL HAVE) NO obligation to "help them with their 'so-called' Investigation"

It is NOT a "Lawful Order" for an LEO to walk up to ANYONE and demand ID. And their ONLY RAS was he was black...NO OTHER description matched...and the guy is casually sitting in his car eating.

"Follow commands or get capped." and statements like this, make us law abiding citizens hope cops that say such things get their heads blown off, to rid them from the streets and their egos.

TAF said:

He had (We ALL HAVE) NO obligation to "help them with their 'so-called' Investigation"

It is NOT a "Lawful Order" for an LEO to walk up to ANYONE and demand ID. And their ONLY RAS was he was black...NO OTHER description matched...and the guy is casually sitting in his car eating.

"Follow commands or get capped." and statements like this, make us law abiding citizens hope cops that say such things get their heads blown off, to rid them from the streets and their egos.

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100% 100% 100%

Could not have better articulated myself.

ZYBORG said:

Its crazy….

Whats sad is that this ideology that cops need to cuddle your feelings and obey your commands, while investigating you for a potentially dangerous crime, has infiltrated its way into this forum….

This same place where you find mostly reasonable and conservative people… people that understand how society is held together…

SAD, bros…

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You are an enemy of Freedom.

Sad!

TAF said:

He had (We ALL HAVE) NO obligation to "help them with their 'so-called' Investigation"

It is NOT a "Lawful Order" for an LEO to walk up to ANYONE and demand ID. And their ONLY RAS was he was black...NO OTHER description matched...and the guy is casually sitting in his car eating.

"Follow commands or get capped." and statements like this, make us law abiding citizens hope cops that say such things get their heads blown off, to rid them from the streets and their egos.

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You are ignorant and DEAD wrong…. Been watching way too many sovereign citizens! Lmaooo.

For the last time, while being a suspect of an active criminal investigation, you CAN be detained and given LAWFUL orders. You dont have to “help” the investigation, but you do have to comply with LAWFUL commands given, or else there will be legal ramifications.

Best you can do, is obey commands and keep your mouth shut. Call lawyer and / or argue in court. Or, just do what most reasonable people would do, which is… calmly follow commands… communicate with police in a polite manner. Once they have determined that you are just a law abiding citizen/not the suspect, they will just move along.