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555rwhp 506 rwtq NA. Then the nawzzzzz comes in to play. It all becomes realative at that point.LOL I built my engine to handle up to a 450 shot. I don't think I would ever do that though. I have hit it as high as a 350 shot. Oh and this car is my daily driver. I did those #'s on 91 octane. On the sauce I spray 116 into it from my stand alone fuel system. Hell my wife went and got groceries in it the other day.LOL

I'd guess, if you can hook up, you'd run mid to lower 9's in the 1/4 around 145ish.. that's movin..
 

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That's impressive number for a N/A. Your car would have make 1000 hp easy the only problem is can you put it through the ground....that would be a challenge....As for me, I'm looking at a big block that will harness the same power as yours. The only problem is, I don't have the money to buy it, not yet anyway.

For me, the little 4.6 stock block that can harness 800 rwhp is not bad at all....what do you think. BTW, you're brave to let your wife drive the car to get grocery. Last I remember my ex drove my car, my rims were gone....(curb side drive through, that's why she's my ex, jkd...)
 

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That's impressive number for a N/A. Your car would have make 1000 hp easy the only problem is can you put it through the ground....that would be a challenge....As for me, I'm looking at a big block that will harness the same power as yours. The only problem is, I don't have the money to buy it, not yet anyway.

For me, the little 4.6 stock block that can harness 800 rwhp is not bad at all....what do you think. BTW, you're brave to let your wife drive the car to get grocery. Last I remember my ex drove my car, my rims were gone....(curb side drive through, that's why she's my ex, jkd...)

Hooking is the challenge for sure. I have yet to tune my suspension. I just got her put back together. I understand issues on $$$$$$!! LOL As for the wife driving it. Hell! She will put it down the track! She is from Germany and I will say this, she can bang the gears real well. I only get scared when she backs.LOL Nothing like a hot blond with big boobs driving a car like that to get groceries.LOL I let her drive it because she enjoys it and it messages my ego.LOL I never new a 4.6 could put those #'s down! My buddy has an 03 Cobra that is close to that figure. As soon as his tranny gets put back in....we are hooking'em up!:beer:
 

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Sometimes. I have learned not to do it all the time. I have a full spool in the rear and it chews rubber up fast! Most the time I roll on crappy 18" tires.:nonono:
That must be a "traction adventure". :D

As far as the original thoughts in this thread. Your car is similar to many f-bodies we race with at the track (when Speed Inc. reserves lanes at Byron and we race with Larry and the boys :thumbsup: ). Inevitably it's a built/stroker combo with a power adder that's required to take down a decently running bolt on Cobra with a twin-screw.

None of the guys with just H/C/I can get it done, although occasionally an optimized H/C/I/N20 setup does. Almost always it's a completely built stroker setup with a power adder that's needed to take out any of us running twin-screws on our bolt-on Cobras. And it's never a 6-speed car, it's ALWAYS a built auto.

I've owned several f-bodies (the last a 2000 Formula WS6) and I have great respect for them (especially with the crazy big cubed combos you can put in them), but as I mentioned earlier in this thread......until you get into the motor, I find the advantage always lies with the Cobra. It's just been my experience, street or track.
 

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That must be a "traction adventure". :D

As far as the original thoughts in this thread. Your car is similar to many f-bodies we race with at the track (when Speed Inc. reserves lanes at Byron and we race with Larry and the boys :thumbsup: ). Inevitably it's a built/stroker combo with a power adder that's required to take down a decently running bolt on Cobra with a twin-screw.

None of the guys with just H/C/I can get it done, although occasionally an optimized H/C/I/N20 setup does. Almost always it's a completely built stroker setup with a power adder that's needed to take out any of us running twin-screws on our bolt-on Cobras. And it's never a 6-speed car, it's ALWAYS a built auto.

I've owned several f-bodies (the last a 2000 Formula WS6) and I have great respect for them (especially with the crazy big cubed combos you can put in them), but as I mentioned earlier in this thread......until you get into the motor, I find the advantage always lies with the Cobra. It's just been my experience, street or track.


I agree with you to an extent. Some stock cube built motors will get the job done too. JORDAN has one. He went 10.6 @ 128. There is definately more in his car. He only used a 150 shot.:eek: But most of the time the advantage goes to the snake. I have also put a six speed back in my car. I enjoy driving the thing. With the TH400 it was a rather combative experience with a 4k stall.
 

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I agree with you to an extent. Some stock cube built motors will get the job done too. JORDAN has one. He went 10.6 @ 128. There is definately more in his car. He only used a 150 shot.:eek: But most of the time the advantage goes to the snake. I have also put a six speed back in my car. I enjoy driving the thing. With the TH400 it was a rather combative experience with a 4k stall.
Agreed. Larry (from Speed Inc.) dad's car went 10.40 @129 on a 150 shot (stock LS6 shortblock) the last time we were at the track.

Also, in my comparison I'm assuming full weight street cars. Once you start getting an f-body under 3100 pounds or a Cobra under 3300 there's quite a weight impact on ET's.
 

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although f-bodies can be fast and im sure there are ones faster than me, i have never lost to an F-body even when i had my 00 GT. F chevy

Did it come from the factory with every bolt on know to man, weight reduction, supercharger and turbo?? In stock form an LT1 is a close race for an 00 GT (I won more than I lost in that department but my LT1 only ran 14.1 at the track stock)... my LS1 wouldn't even be a fair race for a stock GT of that year.
 

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What I think is funny is how all of y'all are trying to put Fbodies and Terminators on some equal level as performance cars when a Terminators all around performance and refinement is no dout better than a Fbodies. I will admit that I think LS motors are better overall motors than Modulars and in the long run they have more potential when both are full built, but who cares unless your somekind of top fuel DR or something as you can make rediculious power with a Modular, and it is a has refined power delivery.

I don't think I've tried to put F-Bodies on the level with Terminators because they are not. The handling is better than most people claim and their performance is much better than some want to admit but as far as being an equal to a termi? We have hundreds if not thousands of track slips that state otherwise in stock form. It would be foolish to claim they are equals and I am certainly not one of the people who beleives that. Leave me out of that group please.
 

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Did it come from the factory with every bolt on know to man, weight reduction, supercharger and turbo?? In stock form an LT1 is a close race for an 00 GT (I won more than I lost in that department but my LT1 only ran 14.1 at the track stock)... my LS1 wouldn't even be a fair race for a stock GT of that year.

Agreed.
My 95 Auto went 13.89 @ 99 many years ago when I first got it on my second pass with the car. I've only seen 5 speed edge Mustangs run those times.
At the time, my car was stock besides a K&N filter, Mobil 1 oil and new 245/50's. With stickies I coulda got shaved off a couple more tenths. (although this is true for anybody)
With bolt ons I was walking LS1 cars, especially from dig races, which is the LT1's strong suit.
 
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I never new a 4.6 could put those #'s down! My buddy has an 03 Cobra that is close to that figure. As soon as his tranny gets put back in....we are hooking'em up!:beer:

A single turbo or twin turbos could reach 800 rwhp but there are not a whole lot out there....Now I'm jealous of you, fast car and beautiful wife....:beer::rockon:c I would trade my ex for anything....jkd... actually she's beutiful too but we are in-differences...:nonono:
 

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I just ran a 12.849 @ 107.77 today. I bought my car for $9500, I spent $899 on the LTs, O/R Y , and CB, $100 on the SLP lid, $200 on the FTRA, $70 PTB, $225 QTP ECO, $300 LS6 Intake.....not bad =D

A F-body is not quite on the same level as a 03-04 Cobra, I'm sure most F-body owners will acknowledge that. But the bang for the buck of my car is pretty nice as well
 
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I see the F body Cobra arguement like the BCS. The Cobra being a Non bcs team. 03/04 Cobras being a dominate nonbcs contender. But, for the most part, the Fbody beats the stnag stock for stock. Both platforms are hella great for modding. If both weren't capable this arguement wouldn't exist. Soooooooo..........that being said, who give a fu@ck both are great. All I give a shyt about is not to many are faster5 than me. I am not above canabalizing my own to prove my point.
 

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I see the F body Cobra arguement like the BCS. The Cobra being a Non bcs team. 03/04 Cobras being a dominate nonbcs contender. But, for the most part, the Fbody beats the stnag stock for stock. Both platforms are hella great for modding. If both weren't capable this arguement wouldn't exist. Soooooooo..........that being said, who give a fu@ck both are great. All I give a shyt about is not to many are faster5 than me. I am not above canabalizing my own to prove my point.

If you have the green both cars can be made fast!!!, to me, they are great cars so no more argument.....:beer:
 

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Good run. It seems like the cockiest LS1 drivers are the ones that have bone stock cars. That could be said about some Cobra owners as well though. You find bad apples in every bunch.

Just dont group all LS1 owners together.
 

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Yeah there is never gonna be a shortage of scumbags on every forum mustangs, fbodys, vettes etc... What we need to do is stick together in our fight for the economy! That meaning foreign vs domestic. :usa:
Oh and as for whats a better quility vehicle (suspension, interior, drivetrain, etc.) Cobra FTW!
 
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Good run. It seems like the cockiest LS1 drivers are the ones that have bone stock cars. That could be said about some Cobra owners as well though. You find bad apples in every bunch.

Just dont group all LS1 owners together.

:nonono:
 

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