2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8 vs. 2008 Shelby GT500
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MM&FF ran 12.2 @ 117. Modified Mustangs ran 12.4 @ 116. I'm not sure if 5.0 drag tested one though. I'll have to check my back issues. I can't tell you what the other rags got because I only subscribe to Mustang specific mags, but I'm sure they're slower.
Oh yea, well Chevy High Performance ran 12.9 in a Camaro Z28! Who gives a rats ass!
For crying out loud! One needs to atleast try and pick an unbiased (between Chevy and Ford because we all know they love foreign cars) source when comparing performance.
Road and Track leaves off idle and has got to have some of the worst drivers as their times always suck. Thus, the best two to use as comparisons would be MotorTrend and Car and Driver. Anyone know what kind of test results they got for a production GT500? I believe it was high 12's?
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I was only using the best times published for the GT500, just as everyone does for their car - including you.
Do a search on this forum and you will find cars that have gone faster than high 12s. But, you're right in who cares. Those road tests are dependent on too many variables. All I know is that my GT500 is faster than my Terminator, which was faster than an ls1 f-body. :-D
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I do like the new Camaro though. There is no resemblance to a catfish with those
But there is a huge resemblance to a giant smiley face.
Seriously, it looks like it was designed straight out of Pixar's Cars. This is the same problem that made me cancel my C6Z order when they revealed it. I can't look at either car and see anything but a goofy smiley face. You get that to a degree with all cars because of the headlight/grill configuration, but when GM adds those egg crates and diving lines it's majorly exacerbated.
But there is a huge resemblance to a giant smiley face.
Seriously, it looks like it was designed straight out of Pixar's Cars. This is the same problem that made me cancel my C6Z order when they revealed it. I can't look at either car and see anything but a goofy smiley face. You get that to a degree with all cars because of the headlight/grill configuration, but when GM adds those egg crates and diving lines it's majorly exacerbated.
Jack Nicholson as the JOKER!!:lol:
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That can't be his car. He doesn't have a Mullet!
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=331973
I don't see any stock GT500s running in the 12s:lol:
What's an 02 Concorde run?
If you read that thread that you just linked you would see how wrong you are. As far as the actual list, true there aren't any stock times showing better than 13's but that is because the people who got 12's stock have since improved their times with mods and thus moved up in the list. Not too mention it appears some people have edited their original post or they got deleted because I know for a fact I saw other 12 sec stock times in there.
what about a mid 12 at 116 for a stock vert?
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=316515
I am not saying that at all. I am saying that high 12's (if I remember correctly) is what the two major car mags ran in the GT500 and is thus the number that one would use as a rough comparison when those same magazines test the Camaro or any other car. I say "rough" because we all know the other variables, and they are many.
I do not use the best times, that is why I said who gives a crap! What Evan Smith runs is not what I run, or you run, or the average guy on the street runs. So again, who gives a crap!
The always slower times, posted by major car magazines like MotorTrend and Car and Driver, are typically closer to real world times from a decent/good driver. Road and Track times would be what your old man would run in your car!
No argument from me about the Cobra or the GT500. Both very sweet cars and I would love to have one :beer:
I disagree, a lot of car mags ran 13.7-13.9s @ 101-103mph in stock LS1s. Obviously they can run faster. I've also personally seen countless LS1 fbodies run high 13s, even low 14s at my track, that doesn't mean they're not capable of much better e.ts. Road & track, and motor trend only mustered 12.60-12.70s with a 2002 Z06 and 13.0s with a 01 Z06, (see link below) does that mean those are real world times with a decent/good driver? More than just a handful of drivers have trapped 113-116mph+ in a GT500, I think that shows it's true capability. IMO, they're are easy 12.5-12.7 cars, give it a little time and you will see more and more of them.
http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60times.html
and i am sure if i really tried i could make the gt500 a mid 15 sec car. and the c6 zo6 a 16 sec car. now what does this prove?
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