Barry Bonds indicted on perjury and obstruction of justice charges.

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who cares. does it bother u that much? if so then dont watch the news. cause there are people out there that do alot worse!! OH NO..HE TOOK STEROIDS FOR BASEBALL! big deal get over yourself
 

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You can't say he never tested positive anymore.

If a sitting US President went to trial for it, what makes you think Bonds is somehow above it? (Perjury):

"You don't get in trouble unless you do something wrong," said Kevin Ryan, the former lead prosecutor for the BALCO case. "There was an opportunity for him to help the investigation, but he chose a path that led him to this point.

Essentially, Bonds perpetrated a fraud. Government prosecutors don't necessarily care that he perpetrated that fraud against Major League Baseball and its customers. They care that he didn't (allegedly) tell the truth to a grand jury. The rest is icing on Bud Selig's cake.

If only Bonds had played it smart instead of smarmy. He should have taken the offer of government immunity, told the whole truth and then, said Ryan of the feds, "we'll call it a day."

Instead, Bonds did it his way. He did it the Marion Jones way. To use a Ryan phrase, he decided to "drive outside the lanes." Bonds all but dared the government to indict him. Well, here they are.

That's what he gets for being the a-hole who thought he could get away with whatever he wanted. I had NO sympathy for Bill Clinton when he got dragged through the wringer for doing it, and Bonds sure as hell isn't getting any from me.

I'm sure he's going to get his own clubroom recliner in prison - sitting on top of Bubba or Tyrone, depending on his preference.
 
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I don't think he's being indicted for USING steroids, he's being indicted for lying to a grand jury and perjury. He won't see a day in jail, IF convicted, but the last time I checked, you're not supposed to LIE when asked specific questions under oath. I could care less about the fact he took steroids, or baseball in general, but it's the principle of that he can lie. No one knows for sure that he lied, so that's why he's under indictment, to find out for sure. He still has to have his day in court.
 

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What part of breaking the law don't people understand? He should be tried and thrown in jail like every other law breaking douche in pro sports ....

The only real loser in this case are the ass clowns that continue to shell out their hard earned $$ to go watch these big babies play their ass slapping.
 

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I still don't buy it. There isn't any hard evidence that he used steroids. This is just another example of haters hating...
 

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i honestly dont see how steriods improve your hand-eye cordination, or knowing how to swing the bat....:shrug: hitting a homerun is 90% technique

i would think that all of that extra muscle from the roids would change your swing and therefore hinder your homerun hitting skills...
 

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I still don't buy it. There isn't any hard evidence that he used steroids. This is just another example of haters hating...

How profound. :rolleyes:

Read the article above this.

To buttress its perjury case, the government has what prosecutors have called a "mountain of evidence" seized in a raid on the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative in September 2003 - documents including doping calendars allegedly showing Bonds' drug regimen and payment records of drug purchases.

In addition, the indictment says investigators have obtained "positive tests for the presence of anabolic steroids and other performance-enhancing substances for Bonds."


The indictment gave no details. But a source familiar with the case said BALCO founder Victor Conte had arranged repeated private steroid tests for Bonds to track the effects of his drug regimen. In the BALCO raid, the government seized those test reports, said the source, who asked not to be quoted by name because of the sensitivity of the investigation.

Since the BALCO scandal began to unfold, Bonds has adamantly denied using steroids. He told the grand jury he used only flaxseed oil and an arthritis balm, not BALCO's designer drugs. In August, when he broke Hank Aaron's record to become baseball's all-time home run leader, Bonds declared that his record was "not tainted at all."
 

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The feds who pushed this case and Bud Selig should go to jail....what a waste of money.:nonono:

Everyone and their mother does juice/growth hormone in pro sports....who gives a shit...I don't. If I had the opportunity to make multiple millions a yr....I'd be hittin' the juice daily.
 

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he will be innocent.. i am a FAN and they should be after all the other A-holes... look at his career numbers... the man is awesome.. I say no more!!

Go Giants!!
 

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He used steroids and lied about it under oath. Throw the book at him and take away his HR Record, he doesn't deserve it.
 

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You can't say he never tested positive anymore.

If a sitting US President went to trial for it, what makes you think Bonds is somehow above it? (Perjury):


That's what he gets for being the a-hole who thought he could get away with whatever he wanted. I had NO sympathy for Bill Clinton when he got dragged through the wringer for doing it, and Bonds sure as hell isn't getting any from me.

I'm sure he's going to get his own clubroom recliner in prison - sitting on top of Bubba or Tyrone, depending on his preference.


First of all, as long as it doesn't cause harm to others it's no one's God damn business what anyone else puts in their body, not yours, not mine, and certainly not the federal governments.
Don't waste my tax dollars prosecuting that shit, it's flat out retarded and pathetic.
 

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He used steroids and lied about it under oath. Throw the book at him and take away his HR Record, he doesn't deserve it.

Guess what? The vast majority of upper level athletes do, and always will. I don't think anyone realizes how boring pro sports would be without supplemental hormones. The bar has been raised, do you really want to watch stick figures (aka "athletes" from the 60s-80s) kick out stats half as large? No thanks.
 

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Stephen A. Smith from ESPN's 1st and 10 made a GREAT statement on "Was RACE a factor" it was great!! classic statement regarding Bonds and McGwire!!
 

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I am also curious to what Canseco thoughts are on this.. I am sure he has a smile ear to ear.. ever since his book and him running his mouth.. thats basically where it all started, moreless!! Owell, what happens, happens!!
 

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Guess what? The vast majority of upper level athletes do, and always will. I don't think anyone realizes how boring pro sports would be without supplemental hormones. The bar has been raised, do you really want to watch stick figures (aka "athletes" from the 60s-80s) kick out stats half as large? No thanks.

Steve Nash is my favorite athlete. He's not boring. He doesn't do steroids. Maybe you need to re-evaluate who you look up to?

As for the whimpering idiots who call performance-enhancing drugs "victimless": http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/children-of-doping-athletes-deformed/2007/10/31/1193618974100.html

Bonds is lucky, in that he had his kids before he decided to inject that crap in himself. But what about our young ones that look up to idiots like him? Just cause the perception is "Everyone's doing it." it's somehow okay? That has GOT to be the most half-wit defense I have ever heard of.

Besides that, he isn't being prosecuted for the drugs in particular. There is NOTHING in the indictments about it. He lied in the face of a grand jury. It doesn't matter if your a bum off the street, or a sitting President. You do that and you get caught, you WILL get hammered. Justice will never be served if every idiot thinks he can get away with lying in a court of law.
 

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Stephen A. Smith from ESPN's 1st and 10 made a GREAT statement on "Was RACE a factor" it was great!! classic statement regarding Bonds and McGwire!!

McGwire was never a part of the BALCO scandal. Notice that EVERYONE involved with BALCO has been taken down, or is in the process of being taken down. I'm sure that he is being investigated also, but the evidence from BALCO only points to those involved with them.

Marion Jones was a part of BALCO.

BTW, how does that race-baiting idiot Screamin' A. Spliff feel about Sammy Sosa not being indicted too?
 

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People lye in court all the time and don't get punished. All this bullshit with Bonds is purely a waste of time. The attorneys involved with this are only trying to make a name for themselves. They need a conviction only to justify the money and time they had spent trying to indict Bonds. They will lose.
 

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Steve Nash is my favorite athlete. He's not boring. He doesn't do steroids. Maybe you need to re-evaluate who you look up to?

I'm not an NBA fan but Congrats on idolizing Steve Nash...I'm not really sure what else to say about that other than worry about yourself, not me. From what I've seen the guy looks like an absolute tool.

As for the whimpering idiots who call performance-enhancing drugs "victimless": http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/children-of-doping-athletes-deformed/2007/10/31/1193618974100.html

First, God only knows what substances they were actually given. Birth defects aren't even listed as a side effect for those seeking hormone replacement therapy from their doctors. You may shoot blanks when you're on but unless you're massively abusing everything goes back to normal after coming off.
Wow, one study citing the horrors of anabolic ABUSE--not use. Two different things. Funny how you can find at least one study on the net to back whatever you want to these days, especially when it comes to as hot a topic as this. Do me a favor, try and find one drug (over the counter or prescription) that won't harm or kill you when abused as such. Asprin, NSAIDs, Tylenol, cough syrup, vitamins, they're all merchants of death and deformity...Didn't you know?
What you don't hear about are the thousands of kids (vast majority) whose fathers took gear but are absolutely fine. I happened to play college baseball at the peak of hormonal supplementation (at least for baseball) in the late 90s. None of my teamates nor anyone else (including their offspring) I've ever known (through over 14 years of competitive powerlifting) has had any seroius (mostly tendonitis and other minor connective tissue issues) health problems whatsoever.
Why not target the thousands of kids deformed each year via alcohol, accutane, or even proscar? All are legal and all produce significantly more child deformity:rollseyes

Bonds is lucky, in that he had his kids before he decided to inject that crap in himself. But what about our young ones that look up to idiots like him? Just cause the perception is "Everyone's doing it." it's somehow okay? That has GOT to be the most half-wit defense I have ever heard of.
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You obviously never played a sport at a D1 or higher level. You have no idea what it takes to compete, what toll it takes on your body. The fact is AS work, they raise the level of competition (speed, quickness, agility, power, recovery) and make sports more exciting to play and watch. You also need to come to grips with the reality that AS will always be a part of sports, all sports, and rightfully so. I sure as hell don't want to spend $200 on tickets to watch a bunch of stick figures play at half the level they used to.
If I was a professional athlete I can say with 100% certainty that I'd be supplementing.

Besides that, he isn't being prosecuted for the drugs in particular. There is NOTHING in the indictments about it. He lied in the face of a grand jury. It doesn't matter if your a bum off the street, or a sitting President. You do that and you get caught, you WILL get hammered. Justice will never be served if every idiot thinks he can get away with lying in a court of law.

That's why I started my initial comment with "the federal government has no right to know what anyone ingests as long as it doesn't harm anyone else", it's none of their ****ing business, he should never have been forced to answer any of that bullshit in the first place.
That's all we need, the useless federal government sticking their nose in more places it doesn't belong.
 
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