Oops. Clipped that off. Fatal dog attacks by breed. Added to the other post. Thanks.
Does it really matter, since it's all about the owners, anyway? I don't discount that factor, BTW. The sort of bad owners relevant to his thread tend not to acquire tea cup poodles.
As I alluded to earlier, I don't think pits are more likely to attack a person, they are just better at it if they do.
I have been around plenty of pits, during the service of search warrants, which were big cuddly babies once somebody was actually nice to them. This was often under pretty awful conditions, and the dogs were still good doggies despite their owners.
I have had dobbies before, back when they were the incarnation of evil, so I get the defensiveness. But to not recognize the lethal potential of one's dog is just emotional silliness.
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Do either of you recognize the lethal potential of your children or spouses?I recognize the lethal potential of my dog. Just like I recognize the lethal potential of my guns (prior to the unfortunate boating accident), and the lethal potential of my cars. I mitigate those risks. The #1 way to do that with the dog is to be a responsible, loving owner.
Do either of you recognize the lethal potential of your children or spouses?
Your more likely to be killed by them then by a dog.
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Stats re: fatal dog attacks by breed for the period 2015 to 2017 as compiled by The Canine Journal.
Corbic wrote: "Do either of you recognize the lethal potential of your children or spouses?"
Women and governments are a lot bigger threat than dogs, for sure.
I am pushing 60, and I like to think that I, too, am still at least a little bit dangerous, if only thru my driving.
I'm a huge dog lover but you have to realize that you can't "love" the instincts out of a dog. Go to any dog park and you will see owners with retrievers playing ball, you'll see the herding dogs chasing other dogs around trying to corral them, and maybe a bloodhound off by itself just sniffing everything. Pitbulls have been bred for bull baiting and dog fighting and while people love to say chihuahuas bite more frequently, they don't do anywhere near the damage a pitbull does. They have extremely high prey drive and insane pain tolerance. The notion that you can just "love" the dog and it will remove these traits is dangerous and analogous to saying if you love your golden retriever a whole lot, it won't want to bring its ball back to you when thrown. There are literally thousands of stories of pit bull type dogs killing toddlers and infants that have had zero history of aggression before the attack and were "family dogs."
You do the same for minorities?No thanks. I’ll go on the other side of the street when I see one. No disrespect to anyone who has one here as we all love our pets. but I just don’t trust them. Once they snap , it’s too late.
What you mostly see is mixes, mutts, or other bully breeds... which are NOT bread for fighting...
Pitbulls (except for APBT that are actually raised and bred for fighting) are just like any other big dog (GS, Rotweilers, Cane Corso, Chow, etc.). They all have the capability of inflicting great harm or death if not owned responsibly. You would have to be a stupid MF’er to approach any of the afore mentioned breeds without an equal level of caution.
That's another example as to why they are viewed that way. They can do just so much damage. All breeds and various types of people can cause numerous outcomes. You just never know. A dog that can do that much damage, one just has to be aware and know the potential risk. It is what it is.I've had German Shepherds for 20 years. We have not had many problems. I have one now. He has got to be a little slow or something. GSD's are the number one biter of humans in the US. I get it. I am fairly experienced and like to think that I can keep them under control. I did have one that could not be squared away though. He was dangerous. You could see it really early on in his life. It was his nature. He was re-homed and used as a farm dog. A good boy from what I have been able to find out. He was NOT going to be a good boy as a family pet.
A girl in my gym just got back from a few months off. Her pit, or one of the breeds from above, bit her ****ing face off while they napped on the couch because her phone or the tv made a noise and startled him. You could see into her sinuses and mouth. It's repaired but she will never look the same. Of course, she said "it's not the dog's fault," which is an interesting take. She is correct on some level. She did bring that animal home. But that dog, in a great home, with ZERO aggressive tendencies, and ZERO history of aggression changed the course of the remainder of her life.
There is a 0% chance you will read a story like that one about my kids. Almost all of my experiences with them has been great. But, I am not convinced.
So what are these mixes, etc bread for then? If someone WAS to get a dog for fighting, would they prefer one of these "bull breeds" or a Pug? And why or why not? We both know the answers to my questions.
I agree with you that someone should use caution to approach these dogs, but why is it that an overwhelming majority of dog bite fatalities are caused by what you are calling "bully breeds"? You said that the APBT is very rare, so it must be these bully breeds that are doing all the killing.
Again, do you think it is possible to "love" the instincts out of animals? Or can we agree that these dogs are responsible for killing people at a much higher rate which is due to their lineage?
This is part of the reason I CC. Had 90 stitches once already due to an Akita.If I’m waking down the street and I see ANY big dog loose, whether an Akita, GS, Rot, Cane Corso, Dogo, Kangal, Presa Canario, Dóberman, Pit bull, etc. You better believe that I am gonna use the same level of caution....