10.8@127mph - 4200lbs race weight

[PIPO]

You mean like this below, only to have 0 people on planet earth duplicate?

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It's a record for a reason, not just a manufacturer claim. Leah Pritchett said it herself, "it's a record I'd like to keep".
-single seat
-no passenger mirror
-2 speaker base radio
-no trunk carpet
-negative 1500 DA
-125lbs PRO driver
-3 gal of fuel
-4320 raceweight w/ driver

The only people that get their panties in a bunch are the Demon owners that don't drag race themselves and the Dodge haters. Everyone else seems to understand what the guys racing their demons are going after.

 

[gimmie11s]

The only people that get their panties in a bunch are the Demon owners that don't drag race themselves and the Dodge haters. Everyone else seems to understand what the guys racing their demons are going after.

False. Im far from a Dodge hater. I own a '16 Ram cummins which I love and am also a huge fan of the HC/Demon cars.

Fact is people are intrigued by cars that punch above their weight, not production cars that simply cannot duplicate what a Manufacturer's ringer car achieved.

 

[PIPO]

Again, the guys doing the racing and running 9.7s, don't really care about all the whining and pettiness that happens online.

 

[98 svt]

Again, the guys doing the racing and running 9.7s, don't really care about all the whining and pettiness that happens online.

....or they just choose to ignore it so they don't feel they were duped by Dodge.

 

[72MachOne99GT]

I’ve never replicated the 3.5 0-60, 11.5 quarter, nor the 200 mph claim.

Even though only one of these measurements is from Fords mouth, I don’t lose any sleep over the fact that I can’t replicate them.

People love to troll, and others take criticism way too hard... the rest of us know that someones opinion of something we have shouldn’t have any bearing on our feelings.

 

[LostM]

If i spend $80k+ and told id have mid 9s all day street legal, and cant, nobody can, not even in non-street legal setup.... id be filing for money back for being sold a Lemon.

If I spend $80k+ and told I can run 10.80s all day street legal, and run a 10.7999999.. I have a winner

 

[72MachOne99GT]

If it was mid 9s all day every day, I’d be a skeptic of the 9.65 record.

It takes absolute perfect conditions plus some to run that 9.65. Clearly nobody has duplicated because it’s that great of a pass, in excellent conditions.

I don’t know if this internet shit-storm is why Ford has never made an official claim, but it should be a factor moving forward.

 

[gimmie11s]

It takes absolute perfect conditions plus some to run that 9.65. Clearly nobody has duplicated because it’s that great of a pass, in excellent conditions....

Yeah, well those conditions have come and gone multiple times and no one, even in an “all demon” event with near 100 cars has duplicated.

Next?


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[tt335ci03cobra]

The gt500 will be so much closer to hanging with a demon than the numbers suggest.

9.65@140 vs 10.8@133 is a wide margin in internet land.

I’m going to call it from now, they aren’t going to be much more than 2-3mph apart tops same day/track time etc. And I’m saying demon on race gas and slicks, gt500 on street tires and street gas.

Many demons are running low to mid 130’s with mid 10’s in full out drag prep.

I think a street gas drag radial full interior demon will Be door to door with a gt500 from almost racing scenarios.

 

[My94GT]

"My car is faster stock" - No one ever after losing a race (except Mopar idiots).

I have yet to go to a test/tune night and a Demon/Hellcat was the fastest car of the night. EVER. Why is it that the Demon/Hellcat has very little "upside?" I'll tell you why, it's a 4500 lb SUV that's why.

Like I've said, set aside the "stock" issue and within 6 months, there'll be GT500's that smoke hellcats and demons, even modified. Why? Because the car will have more upside and respond to tune/modifications much better.

There are several shops with 18+ GT's in the 8's and it took less than a year. But yeah, stock v stock the Demon is faster. Whenever I get embarrassed by a modified supra I'm just gonna say "but mine is faster if you leave yours stock." There's no one at a car show that looks at a twin turbo Supra and turns their nose up at it because it was boring stock.

This whole debate is being drug down into the mud to wrestle with a pig. Even if you win, you still end up dirty and you begin to realize the pig enjoys it.

Who cares what it runs stock. About the only thing I can say where the Demon/Hellcat will be superior is that I'm pretty confident the new 500 will be MUCH more expensive than the Dodge offerings. So value will come into play.

Again, I hate to be the guy that says "yeah, but my car will beat you in the turns" but when two cars are measuring dicks over who can go the fastest in a straight line, it's pretty sad to think that a car that's not even designed to be a straight line warrior is in the conversation with a car that does NOTHING well outside of 1/4 trips at a track.

That reason people love the whole it’s stock phrase is because for once the average joe can go buy a car turn key and run at the track in a 9 second car. If something breaks they don’t pay for it. There is immense value in that as not every person wants to buy a new car then take it over to their local performance shop and have work done all while hoping it’ll go fast but maintain stock drivability.

To many people that matters now, and that does in fact make the car impressive. The GT500 will fall into the same boat as an impressive vehicle in stock form even if it’s not the quarter horse the Monday morning QBs want it to be it’ll still be a stellar “stock” set up.

Now if you take said demon pair it to a moded car by choice and lose well done cry stock just know on that day your 9 second car wasn’t enough stock or not.

 

[ANGREY]

9.65, 10 flat, whatevs. All I know is people paid $80k+ for a car that runs 10's and can't outbrake or out turn a Honda accord sport with equal rubber.

IF going in a straight line were my main focus, the Demon is not a very good buy. You're paying $80k for a car that's moderately fast (by today's standards), doesn't respond all that well to mods (2 tons plus tends to make tire width the limiting factor) and doesn't do well in any other category.

From a strictly value standpoint, Dodge is capitalizing on a very niche crowd.

If going fast in a straight line were my gig, I'd buy a camaro or a mustang GT and have a faster car, that turns and brakes better and gobs of money left in the bank in case something breaks and still end up ahead.

Fat, outdated and inefficient motor aside, what the Demon/Hellcat needs more than anything is a diet plan. And I don't mean the usual suspects like tossing the seats. I mean a frame up diet.

A 3500 or 3600 lb Demon would be a pretty special car. A 4400 lb car that makes 840 crank on a 6.2 liter blown motor with race fuel is...….yawn.

The Demon is that online dating profile that says he makes $200k/year. Which seems awesome to women, until they find out he has 6 kids and a $12k/month child support obligation. 840 hp seems awesome. Then you find out it weighs nearly as much as a 3/4 ton truck and you realize it's not really that crazy.

 

[TERMN8U]

I can’t believe how biased some people are. Just wow. Smh.

 

[ON D BIT]

If i spend $80k+ and told id have mid 9s all day street legal, and cant, nobody can, not even in non-street legal setup.... id be filing for money back for being sold a Lemon.

If I spend $80k+ and told I can run 10.80s all day street legal, and run a 10.7999999.. I have a winner

Yes you can drive it to the track swap out tires take out interior run the put everything back and drive home. I would not.

Everyone knew it could not run 9.6 in street form. I’m not sure why you’re one would be angry?

I do believe claims should be repeatable. This is where dodge is mistaken. As they could not even repeat on the same night with a great set up.

 

[My94GT]

9.65, 10 flat, whatevs. All I know is people paid $80k+ for a car that runs 10's and can't outbrake or out turn a Honda accord sport with equal rubber.

IF going in a straight line were my main focus, the Demon is not a very good buy. You're paying $80k for a car that's moderately fast (by today's standards), doesn't respond all that well to mods (2 tons plus tends to make tire width the limiting factor) and doesn't do well in any other category.

From a strictly value standpoint, Dodge is capitalizing on a very niche crowd.

If going fast in a straight line were my gig, I'd buy a camaro or a mustang GT and have a faster car, that turns and brakes better and gobs of money left in the bank in case something breaks and still end up ahead.

Fat, outdated and inefficient motor aside, what the Demon/Hellcat needs more than anything is a diet plan. And I don't mean the usual suspects like tossing the seats. I mean a frame up diet.

A 3500 or 3600 lb Demon would be a pretty special car. A 4400 lb car that makes 840 crank on a 6.2 liter blown motor with race fuel is...….yawn.

The Demon is that online dating profile that says he makes $200k/year. Which seems awesome to women, until they find out he has 6 kids and a $12k/month child support obligation. 840 hp seems awesome. Then you find out it weighs nearly as much as a 3/4 ton truck and you realize it's not really that crazy.

9s is slow now? Please tell me more about what you consider fast? The reality is buyers of performance cars are predominantly looking to go straight line fast and will never hit a track or back road fast enough to notice that the hell cat variants are in fact land yatchs. From a business perspective this is a great combination and in today’s market you’re getting a solid set up for the money.

The demon also has exclusivity going for it as well which people eat up quickly. Does that mean there aren’t better cars for the money, no it doesn’t, but it’s not a flop. Due for a revamp yes, which is set to happen in 2020 if I read correctly.

Liking it or not obviously is as subjective as viewing profiles on a dating app.

 

[ON D BIT]

9.65, 10 flat, whatevs. All I know is people paid $80k+ for a car that runs 10's and can't outbrake or out turn a Honda accord sport with equal rubber.

IF going in a straight line were my main focus, the Demon is not a very good buy. You're paying $80k for a car that's moderately fast (by today's standards), doesn't respond all that well to mods (2 tons plus tends to make tire width the limiting factor) and doesn't do well in any other category.

From a strictly value standpoint, Dodge is capitalizing on a very niche crowd.

If going fast in a straight line were my gig, I'd buy a camaro or a mustang GT and have a faster car, that turns and brakes better and gobs of money left in the bank in case something breaks and still end up ahead.

Fat, outdated and inefficient motor aside, what the Demon/Hellcat needs more than anything is a diet plan. And I don't mean the usual suspects like tossing the seats. I mean a frame up diet.

A 3500 or 3600 lb Demon would be a pretty special car. A 4400 lb car that makes 840 crank on a 6.2 liter blown motor with race fuel is...….yawn.

The Demon is that online dating profile that says he makes $200k/year. Which seems awesome to women, until they find out he has 6 kids and a $12k/month child support obligation. 840 hp seems awesome. Then you find out it weighs nearly as much as a 3/4 ton truck and you realize it's not really that crazy.

Fast by today’s standards?

I believe it’s faster than anything south of $160k. Which is damn good as it cost half that.
Do you know how well it brakes? No. It’s at or close to 100ft 60-0 which is better than the Lamborghini Gallardo.

Running mid 10 at 130+ I’m street set up is damn fast, with a warranty. Name another car that can do that under $160k?

 

[Kaneda]

June July we’ll see a bit more. September we’ll get em for sure. Got a good hunch and a chill up my leg. Mathews style. Months to answer q1.

Ford didn’t say that, a cool guy that works at ford said that. Ford never released a public statement like that. Guy almost lost his job for saying that. Chill B, high level people are human too.

Nearly 95% of demons will be modified over time. Tires wear out and changing tires is a modification, not a maintenance or race prep. You need to spend less time thinking about the way things used to be and adhere to the new laws that govern stock as listed here on SVTPerformance.com by the masses of demon defenders on the 18th and 19th years of the 21st millennium.

more like 95% of Demon owners DO NOT EVEN DRIVE their cars.

 

[Kaneda]

When that $100k performance car is just a mustang...it is more special to just leave it stock. Once the mods starts, it's just a very expensive fast mustang. At least that's how I see it with the Demon.

THANK YOU! Finally the voice of reason. Ford and Dodge have spent MILLIONS R&D'ing these cars to be special and best in class. What is the point in modding either? Once you MOD a Demon you destroy what makes it special.. You also destroy the value and purpose of the car. If going fast in a straight line is the goal, you could buy a 40K hellcat, tune it, pulley...and beat a Demon. Why buy a 100K demon? Same is true of the GT500. Heck I could make a Civic faster than a Demon or Shelby. But still a rice rocket civic. Why are BONE STOCK Supra's from 96 going for 100K, yet modded ones are not?

 

[Kaneda]

M

more like 95% of Demon owners DO NOT EVEN DRIVE their cars.

Most cars over 160K can't even do that That guy is a moron. Calls the fastest factory muscle car of all time "moderately fast"...what a moron.

 

[GTSpartan]

All you guys giving the Demon a hard time for being fat better look in the mirror when the 500 hits the streets.

While it likely won't weight quite as much, the probability of it coming in under 2 tons is small. Maybe not as fat, but still fat.

M
Most cars over 160K can't even do that That guy is a moron. Calls the fastest factory muscle car of all time "moderately fast"...what a moron.

He also claimed it doesn't respond well to mods and would be special if it weighed 3500-3600# lol. A damn 4 cyl stripped down Mustang S550 weighs that much. This is good stuff!

That's a bold strategy cotton

 

[tt335ci03cobra]

M


Most cars over 160K can't even do that That guy is a moron. Calls the fastest factory muscle car of all time "moderately fast"...what a moron.

Why did you quote yerself here, epic trolling or lol moment?