Did I miss the post or do you have a Gen 3 on your car Catmonkey?
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Anyone get their paws on VMP 160 mono?
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TB makes a big difference on these because as bimini points out they love to breathe. Justin of VMP has a video where he goes from gen2 to gen3 and then from twin 67 to 160 and he gains 30 whp from TB switch IIRC. That is with stock exhaust manifold so expect more with headers. While probably not necessary I am going to 148 CIA as well.
I do, but it's still in the box at this point. I got it with the adapter for the standard throttle body bolt pattern. I'm still chasing a few other gremlins on my car, but it shouldn't be much longer before it's installed. I own the big Whipple elliptical and its already been figured out from a tuning standpoint. Just by design, I have to believe it probably has better street manners than true ovals of similar flow rates. I intend to run the 67mm on the street anyway. I spend more time in the lower and mid range than I do in the upper rpm zones on the street, so it's plenty adequate. If I want to get serious, I'm just four bolts and a bigger MAF away from a few more ponies.
PSA for anyone that is interested. I confirmed w/ VMP that adapter plate for twin 67 does work on whipple 170. The roll out of this has been very disappointing. The 2650 took forever and then when it finally came out, the TB that is spec made for it is still in concept mode. Time to step up your game VMP.
While it's not likely to be a direct bolt on, I'm not so sure with a bit of modification it could be made to work. The elliptical wouldn't technically bolt up to to a Gen II either, but with a little ingenuity and a die grinder....
Gen 3 adapter plate
Gen 3 adapter plate
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How much power do you plan to make? Im know the gt500 love to breathe. I picked up 15hp when i went from the stock tb to the frpp 65mm tb. Im guessing with your 148 cai you plan to make 800hp plus?
Hi Catmonkey, really need your help.
Can you please take some pictures of the cutting tool that comes with the VMP Gen III 2650 supercharger and post the pictures. I need to know the size of that cutter and which brand, etc. Thanks for your help.
I am in the middle of the installing a KB 3.6 and running into the SAME interference issue - need to cut the driver side water neck down to clear the KB 3.6.
I am thinking MOST of the people who install the KB 3.6 / 4.2 / 4.7 do NOT really know they have an big interference issue with the driver side intake manifold water neck.
Will do. But, I probably won't be able to get to it until the weekend. My workbench is filled with clutter and I don't have any available room to open up the box until I get that remedied.
I've seen pics of KB's suggested clearance modification, and it ain't pretty.
I've seen pics of KB's suggested clearance modification, and it ain't pretty.
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No markings other than 'Snappy'. I will try and measure the nose diameter for you when I get home.
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Thanks for your help. Please let me know what is the diameter of the cutter when you have a chance to measure it.
My car made 20+ more peak RWHP (740) and considerable power and torque over the entire curve with a twin 72mm TB over a FRPP twin 65mm TB. Unfortunately that 72 was just too dam unreliable. It was amazingly more responsive and at WOT, the car was down right nasty, just couldn’t get the TB to work anywhere other than WOT.... LOL.
Since then I’ve been chasing that power and throttle response like a junkie and I’m hoping the latest iteration; whipple mono and PMAS / 1320 Junkie DD149 MAF will be the ticket. I can’t help but feel like the inconsistent readings from the JLT intake / MAF played a role in the demise of some of those big twin bore TB’s but then again I only marginally understand how that all works so what do I know... I do know that my JLT intake that was supposed to be 123mm ranged anywhere from 113mm to 118mm inside diameter from one end to the other and it was smallest at the inlet. That can’t be good for consistent MAF signals.
Since then I’ve been chasing that power and throttle response like a junkie and I’m hoping the latest iteration; whipple mono and PMAS / 1320 Junkie DD149 MAF will be the ticket. I can’t help but feel like the inconsistent readings from the JLT intake / MAF played a role in the demise of some of those big twin bore TB’s but then again I only marginally understand how that all works so what do I know... I do know that my JLT intake that was supposed to be 123mm ranged anywhere from 113mm to 118mm inside diameter from one end to the other and it was smallest at the inlet. That can’t be good for consistent MAF signals.
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Imo its the TB. Ive tried both 127mm and 148mm JLT's. No issues what so ever. The Ford twin 65 is super reliable, smooth idle, no issues. I may try a Whipple 170, but gonna hang on to my FRPP twin 65 for as long as I own my car cuz it works...
I used to actually keep my 65 in my trunk when I had the twin 72. I got stranded with a wrench light once and that was the last time I left the house without my twin 65... A few years back, I made it all the way to Ocean City Maryland from the Philly area and drove around there for a day before it wrench lighted me. I thought we had it all worked out and couldn’t have been happier... that is until it pooped the bed on me on coastal highway... LOL
It made no sense, no rhyme or reason why... luckily I had the twin 65 with me in the trunk, 15 minutes and I was back on the road with no issues... other than not nearly as much fun...
It made no sense, no rhyme or reason why... luckily I had the twin 65 with me in the trunk, 15 minutes and I was back on the road with no issues... other than not nearly as much fun...
I sent my 160mm back last week. I will get the twin 67mm for now, then wait until all issues are resolved with the 160mm. My car is a rocket already with the stock TB and Gen 3 supergharger. Don't want to trade off any drivability for a few hp.
I just wanna go fast...
So was it the TB or tune causing the issue?
The 67mm should make great power
The TB I think. My tuner has been tuning my cars for almost 20 years, never had an issue like that. It was so sparattic too, it would be fine for a couple days or long trips then out of nowhere, wrench light...
That sucks to hear. Did you ever get a fail safe?
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