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This is like my review this year. Got a 3 out of 5 on review, yet was highest productive employee. Even stated that in my review. Finally got a raise as of tomorrow. Only $1hr but I'm happy it's something. Just kick butt and keep adding to the resume. Start looking for a new job and leave once a good opportunity comes your way
 

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This is like my review this year. Got a 3 out of 5 on review, yet was highest productive employee. Even stated that in my review. Finally got a raise as of tomorrow. Only $1hr but I'm happy it's something. Just kick butt and keep adding to the resume. Start looking for a new job and leave once a good opportunity comes your way

I think I may just go that route. I don't like their SLA's and constant stop and go on projects. It's like the have ADD and can't complete anything.
 

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What the hell? This isn't kindergarten. Boss is intimidated by you and that's his passive attempt to keep you at bay.
 

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So I had a sit down with my new boss and was told to hold back my productivity because the people in my department are having low self esteem issues do to how much I've changed the companies ideals and expectations.

As an owner or worker have you ever heard the BS? I hate to admit but I straight up laughed when he said that. Is he scared that I'm over qualified and think I'm after his job?

Honest comments please no bs.

in my 18years with my company I remember what one supervisor told me... and sadly its proven correct over the years...

"your fellow employees are the rungs on the ladder of success."

keep climbing
 

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That's some crazy bs right there. Hey, you're doing too well & everyone else we hired in your department is a moron so please stop making us look bad because we are too stupid to hire qualified folks.

Oil Industry.

Especially in 2013. Where they would hire anybody with zero experience.. Put them near 17,000 PSI, and hazardous chemicals with a day of training.

They didn't care about qualified they just cared about having bodies out there
 

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So I had a sit down with my new boss and was told to hold back my productivity because the people in my department are having low self esteem issues do to how much I've changed the companies ideals and expectations.

As an owner or worker have you ever heard the BS? I hate to admit but I straight up laughed when he said that. Is he scared that I'm over qualified and think I'm after his job?

Honest comments please no bs.

Honestly, i'd have a private "sit down" with his boss, and let him know what he said. I'm sure the owner would be interested in hearing about bosses telling employees to slow their output to help people's self-esteem issues. I've never heard of that before in my life in the real world. hahaha

"Yea, slow down with your productivity, we don't like to make money around here. We're in the helping people with their feelings business."
 

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Self-esteem? Are you kidding me? Are you a 6th grader and by "career" do you actually mean science project? WTF is wrong with people today? Don't hold back at all. Make those little faggits feel even worse. They sound like they deserve it. You should take his job and then tell every single one of those people that they can toughen up or go stand in the unemployment line.

Haha your post actually made me angry...
 

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Work as hard as you want, do all you can, but don't be an asshole. Your current direct boss is probably in fear for his job. Probably had it easy the last few years, everybody that works for him is probably a dim bulb, and he tells his boss on a routine basis how he "provided guidance" to his folks.

The "dont be an asshole" bit, though, that's on you. It's hard, especially if you are a bright bulb in a dark background of chair-warming time-clock cruisers. Still, you never know what is going to happen in a year, much less five or ten, so, be the guy everybody goes to for help and makes them feel better, not the "asshole of last resort."

I whole heartedly agree with this. Your situation has happened to me twice in my lifetime. Once in my very early stages of my career, and was told something very similar by a peer manager (not my own). I used some tenacity and productivity to help others and see through the changes I wanted to become a reality. It worked wonders and was great for the career. Catapulted me to higher levels in the same relative time period....

In the second scenario, at a different location, I became frustrated at the lack of adoption of change and productivity and more or less became jaded and even more tenacious (i.e. an asshole...do this because I said so, etc.etc.). My boss seemed fearful for his job (he didn't really fit in the role to begin with) and seemed to be very stubborn to make change, or make swift, accurate decisions recommended by others.

I've seen both "attitudes" play out....so, at the risk of telling you what you already know, I'd keep doing what you're doing. Instead of using "I", use "we", continue to make your boss look good and try to "teach/train" your coworkers to be as productive as yourself. You'll more than likely see quicker advancement (if that's important to you), as well as glowing remarks by your coworkers.

As an existing high-ish level manager, it's people like yourself that I see as more impactful and reward more handsomely.
 

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Honestly, i'd have a private "sit down" with his boss, and let him know what he said. I'm sure the owner would be interested in hearing about bosses telling employees to slow their output to help people's self-esteem issues. I've never heard of that before in my life in the real world. hahaha

"Yea, slow down with your productivity, we don't like to make money around here. We're in the helping people with their feelings business."

But you also don't want to be the guy that goes above one boss to get to the next. This breeds distrust. Even if the information is valuable.

Use your work product as your voice, even if it is frustrating... Don't burn bridges in a professional setting no matter who it is (beneath or above you).
 

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in my 18years with my company I remember what one supervisor told me... and sadly its proven correct over the years...

"your fellow employees are the rungs on the ladder of success."

keep climbing

Eeesh...in my world, this wouldn't get you very far, especially in the same Company. Whether it has worked for you, or not, I don't recommend this path. You need your fellow EE's to get shit done and make change and direct the Company the way it needs to. Assuming you mean they're "rungs" as you use them as stepping stones.....Stepping on folks just creates animosity, perpetuates back-stabbing (could be your own) and leads to killing the culture.
 
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The Supervisor loves me and tells me to do more but the person to whom I'm speaking about tells me to hold back. Again they said peoples self esteem are down because I'm out shinning them. I think I need to have a talk with my VP off the record.

Use your political capital to move positions inside the co. Don't keep working for your current guy, it's not going to end well.
 

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The Supervisor loves me and tells me to do more but the person to whom I'm speaking about tells me to hold back. Again they said peoples self esteem are down because I'm out shinning them. I think I need to have a talk with my VP off the record.

Boom. You just answered your own question. He's afraid you're going to take his job.
 

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**** that guy. Sounds like you deserve a better job, with more pay !
 

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I whole heartedly agree with this. Your situation has happened to me twice in my lifetime. Once in my very early stages of my career, and was told something very similar by a peer manager (not my own). I used some tenacity and productivity to help others and see through the changes I wanted to become a reality. It worked wonders and was great for the career. Catapulted me to higher levels in the same relative time period....

In the second scenario, at a different location, I became frustrated at the lack of adoption of change and productivity and more or less became jaded and even more tenacious (i.e. an asshole...do this because I said so, etc.etc.). My boss seemed fearful for his job (he didn't really fit in the role to begin with) and seemed to be very stubborn to make change, or make swift, accurate decisions recommended by others.

I've seen both "attitudes" play out....so, at the risk of telling you what you already know, I'd keep doing what you're doing. Instead of using "I", use "we", continue to make your boss look good and try to "teach/train" your coworkers to be as productive as yourself. You'll more than likely see quicker advancement (if that's important to you), as well as glowing remarks by your coworkers.

As an existing high-ish level manager, it's people like yourself that I see as more impactful and reward more handsomely.

There's a lot of good advice in here, but I've decided no more trying to change culture in a company. I'll just jump from now on. Plenty of places with great cultures are looking for talent. Very few companies actually want to change, and even fewer are willing to encourage/protect/properly compensate the people willing to do it.
 

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There's a lot of good advice in here, but I've decided no more trying to change culture in a company. I'll just jump from now on. Plenty of places with great cultures are looking for talent. Very few companies actually want to change, and even fewer are willing to encourage/protect/properly compensate the people willing to do it.

I agree with you...sort of. It IS hard to retain a certain culture that a Company wants. And, ultimately extremely easy to destroy that same culture. However, it's a catch-22. It is really upheld by the Employees that turn the engine. Culture is not necessarily always driven by leadership/management....sure, they uphold it, preach it and make decisions to try and build/sustain it...but, it ultimately is the responsibility of the EE's to drive it and sustain it. They have to believe it. With that said (the catch-22 of it all), Employees that do jump onto the next role, perpetuate the "I'll just keep looking", the "grass is greener" mentality, which destroys the basic fabric of team workmanship. It ends up being "I'm going to get mine" instead of putting in the time, working hard and fostering something great. We all see both sides of this coin throughout winning (and losing) teams in sports. I hate to admit it, but the whole millennials generation argument really holds weight here. (FWIW, I'm technically a millennial as well)

...all very preachy in what I said, unfortunately...but, I'm one of those that would stick around in situations like the OP and try to make things better, rather than just saying "fk it" and moving on to a different position looking for something better. It has worked well for me, in my career, so that's all I can lend advice to!

Let us know how things go OP, I'd be interested to hear what you choose to do and how it worked for you.
 
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Wow, people are getting butthurt over the fact that you're doing your damn job? How sensitive is the world today?

Why is their self esteem low? Are you basically comparable Steph Curry at your job & nobody could realistically strive to reach your output? I mean, if anything, you should be motivation to all. Your boss should maybe make things more competitive & offer monthly incentives based off performance..doesn't even have to be monetary incentives, but since workers self esteem is lacking due to their lack of performance, he should talk to them...not you. This world makes no sense. If I were you, I'd maintain my productivity & maybe even try to encourage others in a positive manner or even make them feel they're valuable.


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I almost want this job now, a boss telling me to work less! Can i come in at like 11 in the morning and only work till 3? Double paid vacation time?

Maybe you should work much less, too the point where you almost aren't doing anything at all. Then when he starts to complain about that, get upset and say "if i work alot you tell me to slow down, if i slow down you tell me to work more. Your confusing me and causing me to get low self-esteem!"
 

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