Epa seeks to prohibit conversion of vehicles into racecars

[2001sleeper]

CA here, sniffer is a given.

Can you pass without cats wth a tailpipe sniffer?

Texas has no sniffer if it is OBD2 and newer. No cats would obviously fail the visual unless the inspector is a nice guy. Much harder to lie with a true tailpipe test.

 

[08mojo]

How does tuning create more emissions? I thought it just does not pass on a aftermarket tune because the scan tool will show a code, so you go back to stock.

A tune usually optimizes the engine to run even better and people pick up MPGs.

The only damaging thing I think of is not running cats. Run cats, like I say in my previous post.

More mpg does not necessarily mean cleaner emissions. Timing increases usually means more power on a tune, but it also increase NOx.

 

[Riptide]

Gah. Makes me think about the possibility of moving to WA and having to try and get the car registered. With a VMP TVS and no cats. And breathers installed.

Gonna be good times I'm sure. :/

 

[mcaligiuri]

Better ban all lawn equipment, many lawn mowers don't have cats. And home heating oil burners many don't have any pollution control. It's all bs. Car emissions is like 3% of all harmful pollution production. It's major factories and power plants that are the main problem. But they are to big to control or fail so we will make the little guy suffer.

 

[2001sleeper]

Better ban all lawn equipment, many lawn mowers don't have cats. And home heating oil burners many don't have any pollution control. It's all bs. Car emissions is like 3% of all harmful pollution production. It's major factories and power plants that are the main problem. But they are to big to control or fail so we will make the little guy suffer.

Do you have any sources to support your statement?

 

[DHG1078]

CA here, sniffer is a given.

Can you pass without cats wth a tailpipe sniffer?

Texas has no sniffer if it is OBD2 and newer. No cats would obviously fail the visual unless the inspector is a nice guy. Much harder to lie with a true tailpipe test.

The laws changed in Cali recently allowing model year 2000 and newer cars to bypass the sniff test. The car has to be connected to a computer via OBDII and checks for any trouble codes. The regulations also state it must be the oem tune, but I don't know if they can actually tell that or not.

 

[mcaligiuri]

I meant 30% I apologize for the typo.

 

[mcaligiuri]

And that's directly from the epa. Look at everything that 30% includes cars, boats, planes, dirt bikes, law mowers, farm equipment. Now your gonna try and regulate a aftermarket car industry
That effects a small amount of vehicles. It's crazy

 

[08mojo]

Better ban all lawn equipment, many lawn mowers don't have cats. And home heating oil burners many don't have any pollution control. It's all bs. Car emissions is like 3% of all harmful pollution production. It's major factories and power plants that are the main problem. But they are to big to control or fail so we will make the little guy suffer.

Haha, you need to do a lot more research. There is a reason the coal industry is suffering. The regulations put on coal power plants to clean up their emissions is a lot more intrusive and costly than the passenger car emission regulations.

 

[BoostedByV]

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I meant 30% I apologize for the typo.

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And that's directly from the epa. Look at everything that 30% includes cars, boats, planes, dirt bikes, law mowers, farm equipment. Now your gonna try and regulate a aftermarket car industry
That effects a small amount of vehicles. It's crazy

Boom ha

 

[bglf83]

SEMA is just as bad as the NRA with their alarmist reports. Every year they put out a cockamamie report of how the government is trying to take away our "rights and liberties" as car enthusiasts. All it does is drum up false outrage and more financial support from the foil hats.

You need to head the warning. The government closed down every diesel shop it could find making illegal modifications.

 

[bglf83]

Um no. Trust me when I say this No and hell no.
We dont need to abolish them we just need to sway some of these regulations.

P.S I work in the lead industry, if we did not have the EPA in place you would have a life expectancy of about 40 years old also your nice shiny car would have a paint job that lasts about two months due to acid rain from sodium dioxide that my industry and others would love to just release in the air instead of spending billions on keeping out of the air.



You got a problem with my foil hat mofo????

Regulations to fix what you reference was done in the 80s and 90s. I think we should be extremely stringent on what new regulations are tolerable.

 

[Deceptive]

 

[Equalbracket]

^^Lmao. Winning.

 

[sqidd]

ANOTHER Petition To Sign About This EPA Banning Mods

This is the whitehouse.gov petition. Not the one that was going around yesterday. It need another 30K signatures as of right now.

Sign it!

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/tell-epa-withdraw-its-proposal-prohibit-conversion-vehicles-racecars-0

 

[sqidd]

ANOTHER Petition To Sign About This EPA Banning Mods

This is the whitehouse.gov petition. Not the one that was going around yesterday. It need another 30K signatures as of right now.

Sign it!

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/tell-epa-withdraw-its-proposal-prohibit-conversion-vehicles-racecars-0

 

[Weather Man]

How would you like to be at Kenne Bell, Vortech or Roush when the cease and desist selling "offroad vehicle" supercharger kits letter come in? How about the EPA using one of the Federal law enforcement agencies to throw a couple tuners in jail to make their point? Or pick a couple of the more popular hotrod shops across the nation and litigate them into oblivion. They don't have to go after everyone to make it pretty much impossible to buy parts or have a shop work on your car for the average Joe.

 

[ashleyroachclip]

This is more of the All Gore propaganda, to make crony capitalists richer at the expense of the poorer.
As you saw from caligurl, GLOBAL WARMING SCARE.

 

[Phantomhalo]

Signed!

 

[scott9050]

This is more of the All Gore propaganda, to make crony capitalists richer at the expense of the poorer.
As you saw from caligurl, GLOBAL WARMING SCARE.

Kind of like how George Soros corned the U.S. coal industry with help from his buddy Obama:

http://www.newsmax.com/Finance/StreetTalk/George-Soros-energy-coal-shares/2015/08/18/id/670705/