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qtrain

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I agree with LTZ0, here one can legally go to a safe place to pull over. However one cannot/should not come here and call officers names.

Yes I apologize, I took an aggravating situation here with me and reacted poorly to some of the things I was told. And once again for this I apologize to whomever I offended.
 

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if you read the ruling I posted the judge should dismiss the "failure to yield" portion of the tickets. the other stuff, if there is other stuff, he should own up to and take his medicine.

Yep, my exhaust is loud I know. The reason I got pulled over was because I was being ridiculously loud because I was adjusting my tune and my idle was revving pretty high.
 

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There is a guy on SS that goes by Mookie. Shoot him a PM on there and he might be able to help you with a lawyer.
 

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Not to hijack this thread but goes along with the op issue. If its a problem I will open a new thread. But I was once told that if you were by yourself you could obey all traffic laws and drive to the nearest public place or police station? Any truth to that?
 

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Yes I apologize, I took an aggravating situation here with me and reacted poorly to some of the things I was told. And once again for this I apologize to whomever I offended.

I would be highly irritated and looking for a way out of a $1200 ticket :xpl: also especially like the one you got when you had the best interest of both parties safety in mind.

With that said I'm jumping into this thread because I'm curious when you court date is and if it has happened yet because I'm curious of the outcome.
 

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I did and I understand what you are saying. You can stop now. I don't need to explain myself further because we are just repeating ourselves now.

Ticket already happened, not looking for advice on how to avoid it. You guys can stop arguing just to argue.

What is my best way to approach the situation now?

Interesting dialogue here. LEOs in this section are usually a lot more helpful. That being said since eluding is a misdemeanor, you really should get a lawyer that specializes in traffic tickets and is familiar with the local judges and DA. If you have no or very few priors they can usually work something out. This is especially important because that charge can cause issues with you in the future but you also may be able to avoid the $1200 fine and huge increases in insurance. Good luck- guess the LEOs in this thread didn't get anything good for Christmas or something:nonono:
 

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you should actually read the entire thread. he did not get charged with eluding. and the ENITRE thread took place well before christmas

Interesting dialogue here. LEOs in this section are usually a lot more helpful. That being said since eluding is a misdemeanor, you really should get a lawyer that specializes in traffic tickets and is familiar with the local judges and DA. If you have no or very few priors they can usually work something out. This is especially important because that charge can cause issues with you in the future but you also may be able to avoid the $1200 fine and huge increases in insurance. Good luck- guess the LEOs in this thread didn't get anything good for Christmas or something:nonono:
 

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Just read this whole thread and though for sure there'd be an outcome since it started early December. Has anybody heard anything?
 

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Officer go to school to learn the laws. They are then put through feild training with seasoned officers who show them the ropes and make sure that their book studies transfer into the real world. Regardless of the people that will come in here and call us "High School drop outs" or whatever, we are professionals and good at what we do.

Here's the bottom line folks.....

An officer is not going to attempt to stop you in a place that is unsafe 99.9% of the time, and if they do there is a good reason for it. When you get lit up, pull over and stop like the law says in EVERY STATE.
 
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An officer is not going to attempt to stop you in a place that is unsafe 99.9% of the time, and if they do there is a good reason for it. When you get lit up, pull over and stop like the law says in EVERY STATE.

Really? You're going to throw out stats like that for a profession that boasts a 6.8% SUSTAINED misconduct rate and a 1.6% "questionable kills" rate?

Putting Police Misconduct Statistics In Perspective | PoliceMisconduct.net

I agree with you, that MOST of the time, an officer [especially a discerning one] will conduct a stop where it's safest. But throwing out misleading statistics as part of advice like that without qualifying it with "when you feel it's safe" is just irresponsible. Especially when you're dealing with fluid situations and frankly, fluid people (What? Cops aren't people?).

I'm not going to throw out an "EVERY STATE" statement like you did, but I am positive that *almost* every state has some kind of proviso for citizen safety, to combat against police impersonators.
 

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Really? You're going to throw out stats like that for a profession that boasts a 6.8% SUSTAINED misconduct rate and a 1.6% "questionable kills" rate?

Putting Police Misconduct Statistics In Perspective | PoliceMisconduct.net

I agree with you, that MOST of the time, an officer [especially a discerning one] will conduct a stop where it's safest. But throwing out misleading statistics as part of advice like that without qualifying it with "when you feel it's safe" is just irresponsible. Especially when you're dealing with fluid situations and frankly, fluid people (What? Cops aren't people?).

I'm not going to throw out an "EVERY STATE" statement like you did, but I am positive that *almost* every state has some kind of proviso for citizen safety, to combat against police impersonators.

I've gone round and round with you in the past carrrnuttt over various things, and quite frankly this reponse is about all the effort I'm willing to put into it. I know where this is headed, and Im not going there..... It's just not worth my time.
 

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Update:
Finally had court yesterday. I got the failure to yield to an emergency vehicle dropped by quoting the State V. Weaver case. I also got my modified exhaust fine cut in half. Walked in with a $1200+ fine, walked out only having to pay $75.
 

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Update:
Finally had court yesterday. I got the failure to yield to an emergency vehicle dropped by quoting the State V. Weaver case. I also got my modified exhaust fine cut in half. Walked in with a $1200+ fine, walked out only having to pay $75.

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Update:
Finally had court yesterday. I got the failure to yield to an emergency vehicle dropped by quoting the State V. Weaver case. I also got my modified exhaust fine cut in half. Walked in with a $1200+ fine, walked out only having to pay $75.


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Update:
Finally had court yesterday. I got the failure to yield to an emergency vehicle dropped by quoting the State V. Weaver case. I also got my modified exhaust fine cut in half. Walked in with a $1200+ fine, walked out only having to pay $75.

Good for you. In my opinion the Officer improperly charged you and while this does happen from time to time, it's nice to see that you were able to get things resolved.
 

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Update:
Finally had court yesterday. I got the failure to yield to an emergency vehicle dropped by quoting the State V. Weaver case. I also got my modified exhaust fine cut in half. Walked in with a $1200+ fine, walked out only having to pay $75.

Logic prevailed! Congrats.
 

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Update:
Finally had court yesterday. I got the failure to yield to an emergency vehicle dropped by quoting the State V. Weaver case. I also got my modified exhaust fine cut in half. Walked in with a $1200+ fine, walked out only having to pay $75.

EXCELLENT! and that was fair IMHO.
 

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I can understand where you are coming from and it sucks you got that ticket. But when an officer turn his overhead lights, pull over immediately. Officer picks the location of the stop and it is important you pull over right then. Officer may think you were hiding something, or simply pulling over somewhere which you are comfortable to hurt the officer, etc. It is all about the officer safety.

Anyway, hire an attorney and go from there. Good luck!

Edit: I just read that you resolved the issue. I am glad to hear that, because I found both of those tickets to be a bit harsh. I would have lectured you on pulling over right away and let you go.

P.s. I love the sound of modified exhausts :)
 
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When the officer turned on his lights he/she had selected the spot for you to stop. You decided to ignore the officer's lawful instruction to stop immediately. By exercising poor decision making you earned an additional charge that you should pay an attorney to handle this matter.

Here is how your could have beat this ticket. Try this retarded method: Stop immediately, roll down your window, turn the car off, place the keys on the dashboard, set the emergency brake, put both hands on the top of the steering wheel, wait for the officer to approach, speak to the officer in a civil and professional manner and comply with all lawful instructions.

You'll also find that being honest works wonders with LEO's.

Going to disagree. I will not stop somewhere that is unsafe. We have also had problems in recent years with "bluelight bandits".. people posing as police and pulling people over. The police themselves have said if you feel the need, pull over into a well lit area/store etc. Pulling 400ft further when the bluelights were turned on, with turn signal on, is no cause for the charge. The officer simply stated, is an asshole.

Now with that being said, OP, take photos of the spot he wanted you to pull over, and photos of where you pulled over at. Show the proof that it was an unsafe spot.. then before your court date.. not the day of, go speak to an assistant DA. They usually have times set in mornings from 8:00-8:30am or so for people to get tickets reduced etc. Show him/her the pictures, and they can either deal with it there, or suggest you go to court. Either way, I suggest you fight it.

Edit: Just saw the followup. Congrats OP
 
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