I got a set of never ran Pacesetter long tubes. They were the painted version, I had them stripped and I applied the VHT flame proof primer and the flat black VHT flame proof ceramic paint to them. I had them laid up in the truck ready to go in when I was putting the heads back on, etc and decided I didn't want to wait to have a mid pipe fabbed up to make the headers work. They are a bitch to install, but I'll take $250 plus the ride for them if you're interested.