will gt waterpump bolt onto other modular engines?

[P49Y-CY]

can anyone confirm if the waterpump will bolt onto and clear the front timing cover of a 4.6 cobra engine?

thanks for any info!

(i realize that the gt waterpump has a direct water inlet)

 

[Snake Eyes]

I dont know if the GT pump will but if you want a better pump get the evans pump.

http://www.modularfords.com/forums/reference-forum/keeping-your-cool-evans-upgrades-28635.html

http://www.evanscooling.com/main20.htm

 

[50 BMG]

can anyone confirm if the waterpump will bolt onto and clear the front timing cover of a 4.6 cobra engine?

Why do you want to do this?

 

[P49Y-CY]

Why do you want to do this?

it is not that i necessarily want to do this (or right away at least :-D )

but i wanted to open it up for discussion mainly because i read this on the roush engineering website and was intrigued:

WATER PUMP
The Ford GT water pump utilizes a front inlet design to
achieve the flow rate required to maintain cooling
capacity during extended maximum engine power
conditions. Preliminary calculations indicated that the
cooling system would require a coolant flow rate
upwards of 100 gpm to support extended operation at
maximum power output. The current Modular design is
a rear inlet pump fed by a side inlet at the left front of the
engine block (See Figure 21). While this design
optimizes packaging, it creates a flow separation
through the block prior to the pump as well as water
temperature rise as the water passes in front of the #5
water jacket thus pre-heating the water. The front inlet
GT design eliminates these restrictions with a gentle
transitioning inlet neck that minimizes flow separation as
it feeds water into the eye of the pump impeller for
distribution to the water jackets (See Figure 22).
Figure 21. Coolant streamlines with side block entry
Figure 22. Coolant streamlines of front entry pump
The GT pump also utilizes a full-vane cast pump
impeller with vanes designed to generate maximum
pressure while minimizing power consumption (see
Figure 23). While the existing pump uses a stamped
steel “half vane” impeller, the GT team decided to utilize
a cast impeller to reduce vane flexing while allowing for
a compound vane geometry over a flat, stamped vane.
The GT pump generates up to 110 gallons per minute
peak flow and approximately a 10 psi pressure increase
over current designs at peak operation.

links are HERE

and HERE

:beer:

 

[50 BMG]

It doesn't matter what the GT waterpump flows (BTW, you can buy a meizere that pumps even more than that)...

Your cobra will only flow between 40-50 gpm (depending on what pump you use and how clogged your system is) until you change your lower inlet. Changing your lower inlet to something that is actually worth a crap will also force you to do an oil filter relocation. If you want real flow (i.e. 90-100 gpm) out of your cobra, it's gonna cost you at least a grand.

I did the research on this long ago and bought the Evans complete cooling system almost a year ago now.

 

[P49Y-CY]

It doesn't matter what the GT waterpump flows (BTW, you can buy a meizere that pumps even more than that)...

Your cobra will only flow between 40-50 gpm (depending on what pump you use and how clogged your system is) until you change your lower inlet. Changing your lower inlet to something that is actually worth a crap will also force you to do an oil filter relocation. If you want real flow (i.e. 90-100 gpm) out of your cobra, it's gonna cost you at least a grand.

I did the research on this long ago and bought the Evans complete cooling system almost a year ago now.

interesting...

but i take it you don't know the answer to the original question :shrug:

 

[Snake Eyes]

The Evans pump is a direct bolt on and it flows more than the GT pump. I figured that made the original question a moot point.

 

[50 BMG]

interesting...

but i take it you don't know the answer to the original question :shrug:

No and I doubt I ever will. You'll be the first, and probably the last to try it.

 

[MR2Race]

Having worked on the GT development team. I have a bit of insight.
First the rotation direction is not correct. (Unless you want to reverse the direction of flow of water throw the system). And yes the flow rates are a bit over the top.
:burn:

 

[P49Y-CY]

Having worked on the GT development team. I have a bit of insight.
First the rotation direction is not correct. (Unless you want to reverse the direction of flow of water throw the system). And yes the flow rates are a bit over the top.
:burn:

good info thanks!