A friend's '04 Terminator Vert with 2.3 Whipple, 3.73 gears, full exhaust, yadda yadda yadda... ran with me from 30mph up to maybe 120. His car dynoed at 600 rear wheel hp. Though it's in my sig, my car has JLT 127mm intake, Lund Tune, and offroad Hpipe. Suspension is springs and relocation brackets. Now the terminator did have NtO5R's on it but he said he was spinning horribly too. I know he had no time to heat them up and it was 9am and cool in Ky. We were messing around and I even took the hit first and only ended up a half car up on him (his nose at my door). Am I expecting too much by saying I was dissappointed??? LOL! Realistically, I basically only have an intake and tune and he has thousands $$$ in his terminator but I expected to pull more. We basically edged back and forth the entire run. I'm guessing I am 660 at the rear wheels compared to his 600. I'm sure that his tires helped even if he did say he was spinning relentlessly but again they were somewhat cold (they had about a 5 mile freeway ride to warm up). Onlookers said my car was noticeably getting looser than his. I guess a win is a win even if i did cheat taking the hit lol.