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Whipple 5.0 vs KB Cobra
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<blockquote data-quote="Jroc" data-source="post: 12159443" data-attributes="member: 51847"><p>Well then I don't really give a shit.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well if you want to be an ignorant fanboy then I don't care.</p><p></p><p>You're confusing what I'm trying to say about in-floor SFC's. While yes they will improve the chassis tremendously, I'm telling you that you'll realize how flimsy your cars platform actually is by seeing what actually hold and supports the vehicles weight, and power. It's a wonder that the center of the chassis between the subframes doesn't droop down to the floor. Why do you think that Foxbody/SN95 chassis's twist bad and shrink over time if you don't beef them up. This is nothing new. Hell it isn't even post-S197. People have know that they are soft, and flimsy chassis for just about ever since they were introduced. Oddly you don't have to perform these band-aid mods on a S197 because they do not need them.</p><p></p><p>No the 03/04 Cobra will never handle well compared to a good handling car like a Vette or something like that. I don't care about some Griggs or Steeda car on Youtube because those cars are very one sided to be able to handle well and compromise heavily in pretty much every other area. An aluminum block will not do wonders for the car, but it will improve it. No C/O's will not turn a Terminator into a great handling car. Trust me I drove on some a MM C/O setup that was geared towards handling, and it didn't just transform my cars handling. It made it into a little bit flatter corning car than stock, and it would corner a little better than stock, but it sure wasn't some amazing difference, and it's handling still felt very much like a 03/04 Cobras handling which is pushy. Yes I honestly prefer my L's handling to my Cobra at least below say 65 MPH. My L has much more grip than my Cobra or any old Mustang I ever had, it plants it's power way better, and it's more predictable about approaching it's limits. It doesn't feel as flickable, and it won't change lanes as fast as my Cobra would, and it's high speed stability is noticeable behind my Cobras but what I've told you about it is real, and if it wasn't I wouldn't BS about. My truck handling is my favorite performance aspect of it. It's a 13 second truck, but it feels slow as balls to me compared to my old Terminator, but it amazes me how much grip and composer it has in a turn for a 1/2 truck. Also I'm pretty sure a L and Terminator have the same F/R weight distribution. It still feels like a truck, just a really good handling one. A terminator is not a good handling car in the world of performance vehicles.</p><p></p><p>Point out some of my contractions.</p><p></p><p>You've likely never driven a 10+ Mustang. The new GT's are way better handlers than a 07-09 GT500 which felt much like an improved Terminator with a bunch of noise dive, and body roll in a turn and during braking. Just doing a few simple suspension and chassis mods will not make a Terminator a better handler or more capable corner than a new GT. Maybe if you throw some very sticky tires at it, but that's anything.</p><p></p><p>Did I not say that the cooling mods are not beneficial on a "street car." I don't care how much coolant you have in your system it's still going to come up to X temps it's just going to take longer for your motor to come up to temp. Still at the track being able to ice the coolant system is very beneficial. A bigger H/E won't do shit on the street other than improve the cars cosmetics, but it might if you're constantly boosting and running high speeds like you are when RR. A HCM is the most overrated Terminator mods there is. The theory behind them is sound, but plenty of people have developed head tick, and burnt up OEM motors running HCM's. IMHO the most beneficial cooling mods for a street drive Terminator are a more efficient blower, and a smartly built motor. </p><p></p><p>There are plenty of performance car motors that will safely support what a OEM Terminator motor will support safely. No most these cars will not survive a dyno pull or 2 making 1,200 whp, but that power would last no it in the real world before breaking the Terminators motor.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately the Terminators/SN95 cars advantages are few compared to the new Mustangs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jroc, post: 12159443, member: 51847"] Well then I don't really give a shit. Well if you want to be an ignorant fanboy then I don't care. You're confusing what I'm trying to say about in-floor SFC's. While yes they will improve the chassis tremendously, I'm telling you that you'll realize how flimsy your cars platform actually is by seeing what actually hold and supports the vehicles weight, and power. It's a wonder that the center of the chassis between the subframes doesn't droop down to the floor. Why do you think that Foxbody/SN95 chassis's twist bad and shrink over time if you don't beef them up. This is nothing new. Hell it isn't even post-S197. People have know that they are soft, and flimsy chassis for just about ever since they were introduced. Oddly you don't have to perform these band-aid mods on a S197 because they do not need them. No the 03/04 Cobra will never handle well compared to a good handling car like a Vette or something like that. I don't care about some Griggs or Steeda car on Youtube because those cars are very one sided to be able to handle well and compromise heavily in pretty much every other area. An aluminum block will not do wonders for the car, but it will improve it. No C/O's will not turn a Terminator into a great handling car. Trust me I drove on some a MM C/O setup that was geared towards handling, and it didn't just transform my cars handling. It made it into a little bit flatter corning car than stock, and it would corner a little better than stock, but it sure wasn't some amazing difference, and it's handling still felt very much like a 03/04 Cobras handling which is pushy. Yes I honestly prefer my L's handling to my Cobra at least below say 65 MPH. My L has much more grip than my Cobra or any old Mustang I ever had, it plants it's power way better, and it's more predictable about approaching it's limits. It doesn't feel as flickable, and it won't change lanes as fast as my Cobra would, and it's high speed stability is noticeable behind my Cobras but what I've told you about it is real, and if it wasn't I wouldn't BS about. My truck handling is my favorite performance aspect of it. It's a 13 second truck, but it feels slow as balls to me compared to my old Terminator, but it amazes me how much grip and composer it has in a turn for a 1/2 truck. Also I'm pretty sure a L and Terminator have the same F/R weight distribution. It still feels like a truck, just a really good handling one. A terminator is not a good handling car in the world of performance vehicles. Point out some of my contractions. You've likely never driven a 10+ Mustang. The new GT's are way better handlers than a 07-09 GT500 which felt much like an improved Terminator with a bunch of noise dive, and body roll in a turn and during braking. Just doing a few simple suspension and chassis mods will not make a Terminator a better handler or more capable corner than a new GT. Maybe if you throw some very sticky tires at it, but that's anything. Did I not say that the cooling mods are not beneficial on a "street car." I don't care how much coolant you have in your system it's still going to come up to X temps it's just going to take longer for your motor to come up to temp. Still at the track being able to ice the coolant system is very beneficial. A bigger H/E won't do shit on the street other than improve the cars cosmetics, but it might if you're constantly boosting and running high speeds like you are when RR. A HCM is the most overrated Terminator mods there is. The theory behind them is sound, but plenty of people have developed head tick, and burnt up OEM motors running HCM's. IMHO the most beneficial cooling mods for a street drive Terminator are a more efficient blower, and a smartly built motor. There are plenty of performance car motors that will safely support what a OEM Terminator motor will support safely. No most these cars will not survive a dyno pull or 2 making 1,200 whp, but that power would last no it in the real world before breaking the Terminators motor. Unfortunately the Terminators/SN95 cars advantages are few compared to the new Mustangs. [/QUOTE]
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