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Whipple 5.0 vs KB Cobra
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<blockquote data-quote="Jroc" data-source="post: 12156567" data-attributes="member: 51847"><p>Good post.</p><p></p><p>Yes and I really do love Terminators, and think that they are badass cars. They're like Foxbodies where 10 years ago in the sense that they are no longer the best Mustang out there and they are rough around the edges by todays standard, but that's part of the appeal. They are just fun, raw, and pissed off cars, and like the old Foxbody 5.0 EFI motors the Cobra's built, and boosted motor did a whole lot to define and influence the way people are making power, and modding their cars today. And while I've been saying that Cobra motors aren't overly reliable look at the HP ranges we are talking about. Lets just say that in general 600-650 whp is what most consider the safe range for reliable HP in a Terminator with a TS. Well that's a lot, it's just not world beating anymore, and the Coyotes will live in that HP range to.</p><p></p><p>I'll show love to the Terminators all day, but not when a bunch of fanboys start acting like its some superior car to a new 5.0. It's not, and it would be a shame if it was as Ford should be building a better car after all this time. People should be happy that the new 5.0 cars are as good as they are.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Exactly.</p><p></p><p>The Coyote is not a Modular motor.</p><p></p><p>Yes you can swap a Coyote in a Terminator. It's block share pretty much the same footprint, but it would probably not be a direct swap when you take electronics into accoutnt and things like that, but most of the parts are out there to do the swap into Foxbody, and SN95 car.</p><p></p><p>Still I wouldn't do that. Not that it wouldn't be a better overall as in factory form a Coyote weighs a lot less(over 200 lbs less) and that would be off the noise of the car, but the motor is what made the Terminator. It came factory boosted so it was stout, and responded really well to mods, and has kick ass factory rods that can be reused along with the crank and block(I personally would go with a lighter aluminum block, but an Iron block is overall a strong piece no doubt) so a good, strong built motor can be done "relatively speaking" fairly cheap. I think it's ridiculous how the fanboys act like the Terminator is the elite of all Mustang, but with that said they earned their rep. I would just build a good motor using the basic setup that is used from the factory instead of swapping to a different platform of motor. If you twerk a Terminator the right way it will make more HP than you'll ever know what to do with on the street.</p><p></p><p>Here's an example of a good and smart Terminator motor built. This is an old buddy of mines car(I haven't seen him in a few years) It's a 4.6 block with a stroker crank making 5.0 liters of displacement, FGT heads that I feel sure have had some work done on them, a Whipple 2.3, and IDK what else, but he's making a ton of HP on a good, simple, but effective build. I haven't talked with him since he got his car back to going but I wonder what happened. He had a Boss 302 Modular block(uses a 3.700" bore) for it that he was going to build into a 5.3. This guy made over 600 whp with a Steggy stage 4 M112 running a 2.8/#2 pulley setup with his own ported heads, and custom ground cams to his specs, Kooks LT's catted X, etc using a stock bottomend. This guy knows how to build a bad ass Terminator.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19n6kHMBShg&feature=player_embedded" target="_blank">Macon Moore 04 Cobra Ford GT Heads 5.0 Stroke - YouTube</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jroc, post: 12156567, member: 51847"] Good post. Yes and I really do love Terminators, and think that they are badass cars. They're like Foxbodies where 10 years ago in the sense that they are no longer the best Mustang out there and they are rough around the edges by todays standard, but that's part of the appeal. They are just fun, raw, and pissed off cars, and like the old Foxbody 5.0 EFI motors the Cobra's built, and boosted motor did a whole lot to define and influence the way people are making power, and modding their cars today. And while I've been saying that Cobra motors aren't overly reliable look at the HP ranges we are talking about. Lets just say that in general 600-650 whp is what most consider the safe range for reliable HP in a Terminator with a TS. Well that's a lot, it's just not world beating anymore, and the Coyotes will live in that HP range to. I'll show love to the Terminators all day, but not when a bunch of fanboys start acting like its some superior car to a new 5.0. It's not, and it would be a shame if it was as Ford should be building a better car after all this time. People should be happy that the new 5.0 cars are as good as they are. Exactly. The Coyote is not a Modular motor. Yes you can swap a Coyote in a Terminator. It's block share pretty much the same footprint, but it would probably not be a direct swap when you take electronics into accoutnt and things like that, but most of the parts are out there to do the swap into Foxbody, and SN95 car. Still I wouldn't do that. Not that it wouldn't be a better overall as in factory form a Coyote weighs a lot less(over 200 lbs less) and that would be off the noise of the car, but the motor is what made the Terminator. It came factory boosted so it was stout, and responded really well to mods, and has kick ass factory rods that can be reused along with the crank and block(I personally would go with a lighter aluminum block, but an Iron block is overall a strong piece no doubt) so a good, strong built motor can be done "relatively speaking" fairly cheap. I think it's ridiculous how the fanboys act like the Terminator is the elite of all Mustang, but with that said they earned their rep. I would just build a good motor using the basic setup that is used from the factory instead of swapping to a different platform of motor. If you twerk a Terminator the right way it will make more HP than you'll ever know what to do with on the street. Here's an example of a good and smart Terminator motor built. This is an old buddy of mines car(I haven't seen him in a few years) It's a 4.6 block with a stroker crank making 5.0 liters of displacement, FGT heads that I feel sure have had some work done on them, a Whipple 2.3, and IDK what else, but he's making a ton of HP on a good, simple, but effective build. I haven't talked with him since he got his car back to going but I wonder what happened. He had a Boss 302 Modular block(uses a 3.700" bore) for it that he was going to build into a 5.3. This guy made over 600 whp with a Steggy stage 4 M112 running a 2.8/#2 pulley setup with his own ported heads, and custom ground cams to his specs, Kooks LT's catted X, etc using a stock bottomend. This guy knows how to build a bad ass Terminator. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19n6kHMBShg&feature=player_embedded]Macon Moore 04 Cobra Ford GT Heads 5.0 Stroke - YouTube[/url] [/QUOTE]
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