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What long tubes allow for clutch swaps?

Discussion in 'Terminator Talk' started by JCDriller, Mar 29, 2019.

  1. JCDriller

    JCDriller Member Established Member

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    I’m picking up my first terminator tomorrow, I’m very excited and looking forward to enjoying the car every chance the weather permits. It will always be a street car and I’m not a numbers chaser, but I will be modding the stock engine with bolts ons to include a bigger blower.

    I would like to swap out the headers for long tubes, it already has Magnaflow catted x pipe and a Borla cat back. Are there any headers that allow for a clutch swap without removing/loosening the headers? Also, only interested in stainless steel.

    Thanks!
     
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  2. GodStang

    GodStang Well-Known Member Established Member

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    Both Kooks and ARH you can swap with just mid pipe removed. Probably the only two systems I would put on my car.
     
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    Soap Well-Known Member Established Member

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    I had MAC's on my car and clutch/trans removals were no issue.

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  4. CobraLucci

    CobraLucci LEO Established Member

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    Same here, I had MAC's and was able to work around them. But, they leaked at the welds on mine.
     
  5. cj428mach

    cj428mach Well-Known Member Established Member

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    I have the jba longtubes which are more of a midlength. Stainless steel, fit well, and have more ground clearance than my stock manifolds with aftermarket midpipe.
     
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    Dip Dungles Pew Pew Premium Member Established Member

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    This reason along with being half the price is why I went with MAC.
     
  7. JCDriller

    JCDriller Member Established Member

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    So if i went this route I could keep my magnaflow x pipe with cats?

    Has anyone done electronic dumps right off the headers?
     
  8. slo984now

    slo984now AKA 01yellerCobra Established Member

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    No. You'd need a mid pipe to match the headers. Friend of mine did a cut out further back, but he doesn't have cats so it's the same as being off the header really.

    IMO, since you're not looking for every last horsepower save your money and time and keep the stock logs. Lots of people make big power with them.
     
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  9. JCDriller

    JCDriller Member Established Member

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    I'm just looking for sound, not doing this for any other reason. I also plan on having cams installed, just for the pure joy of hearing it lub.
     
  10. cj428mach

    cj428mach Well-Known Member Established Member

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    I bought the jba H pipe because thats all they offer. I didn't like the sound so i cut the front pipes off the jba h pipe and spliced that into my offroad xpipe with bullet mufflers in it. It would probably work on your catted x too.
     
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    cj428mach Well-Known Member Established Member

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    As long as you know for similar money and less work you could gain 200hp with a blower swap vs 75hp with cams and headers. The blower will drive like stock, lopey cams will make you want to sell the car.
     
  12. Bdubbs

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    I have my reasons why I'll never buy a Mac product again. Happened many years ago, won't go into detail.


    On a side note I have ARH headers and did a clutch swap this past October.

    IMG_20181008_150913498_zpsckc3ol2e.jpg

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  13. JCDriller

    JCDriller Member Established Member

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    There is a very high likely hood it'll get a 2.3 or 2.9 whipple as well. What characteristics do the cams change that would make me want to sell it? I've never had a car with aftermarket cams, I have however, always loved the sound they make.

    That's a great photo, thank you!
     
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  14. JetmechF16

    JetmechF16 Under Pressure Established Member

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    Same here, they tuck up to the body very nicely, best option for ground clearance.

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  15. cj428mach

    cj428mach Well-Known Member Established Member

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    https://www.svtperformance.com/threads/cams-or-not-to-cams.1146804/

    Post #14. If you do some searching you ll see malcolm went to great lengths to try to make his lopey cams work.

    More lopey cam problems
    https://www.svtperformance.com/threads/need-advice-on-degreeing-stage-2-comp-cams.1172660/

    https://www.svtperformance.com/thre...on-boost-bypass-valve-on-2-9-whipple.1103918/


    Lopey cams = high overlap = low vacuum = bad driveability. Now you can go bigger cams but if you want to enjoy the car you ll want low overlap thus no lope.
     
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  16. CobraBob

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    That is excellent info, @cj428mach. Worthwhile reading for @JCDriller before making the decision to go the cams route. Those threads in part explain why so few Terminator owners have gone that route.
     
  17. JCDriller

    JCDriller Member Established Member

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    wow @cj428mach thanks! I’ll read all that, I definitely don’t want an undeivable car.

    I did get the car this morning, very nice car from another active member. Can’t wait to start building it.
     

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    I have Kooks long tubes 1 3/4”x 3” and you can do clutch swaps without touching them at all. I literally just did my clutch swap. The worst part is getting to the starter bolts with long tubes.


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  19. hotcobra03

    hotcobra03 Well-Known Member Established Member

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    No issues with mine

    But if it wasn't a 2 piece trans I don't think it would be easy
     

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