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What is the best daily driver S/C to run on the Coyote?
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<blockquote data-quote="Snakenhorse" data-source="post: 13024881" data-attributes="member: 140863"><p></p></blockquote><p></p><p>Did the automatic car that you drive with the vortech had a circle D or any type of performance converter installed? Who tuned the car? There are a lot of things to consider before we start making judgments like you are.</p><p>Each power adder has its pros and cons even with the P.D. for daily driving get extremelly HOT in the summer time and you lose a lot of torque and HP for street driving(and that instant hit) which doesn't happen in the same way with the centrifugals or turbos with the air to air intercooler and placement of the centri. blowers closer to the radiator and not on top of the P.D. intake manifold cooking 24/7 like a roasted chicken. Also, smaller P.D blowers aka 2.1 and 2.3L run hot hooter naturally to produce each pound of boost when compared to bigger 2.9L one because the rotors have to spin faster and harder and heat comes with that and so does heat soak.</p><p> </p><p>Also, remember that a centri or turbo will beat the roush on top end usually after 3rd gear will start gaining on them and will pull hard on the roush after that if same boost is considered with this 5 liter engine. This is a 4 valve motor with 32 valves that benefit the most from power and torque that is added in the high rpm range between 4-7k where the High rpm cams are working at its best and powerful range and opening its 32 valves to be stuffed with boosted air from a turbine not a mid range blower that won't provide enough air like it should up there. 2.9L, 3.4L and </p><p>4L P.D. are big blowers and a different story but not these small 2.1L and 2.3L ones. They won't provide enough for the 5 liter plataform thus will ROB a lot of HP in order to give your engine HP back, period.</p><p> </p><p>These engines like to be spun high and hard so the low/mid. rpm instant boost that the roush and edelbrock provide them with is not going to be effective like a belt driven or exhaust turbine and you might gain a small lead in a race but will end up losing badly as the race goes on.. </p><p> </p><p>If we were driving 5 liter pushrod engines that only spin to 5500 rpm and suffer from valvetrain stability after that I would say go for the PD blowers but no, not with the new 5 liter engine, those need paxtons, vortechs and turbos if you want to win races, especially in the highways like they mostly race in europe. </p><p></p><p>I disagree with you!!</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Snakenhorse, post: 13024881, member: 140863"] [/QUOTE] Did the automatic car that you drive with the vortech had a circle D or any type of performance converter installed? Who tuned the car? There are a lot of things to consider before we start making judgments like you are. Each power adder has its pros and cons even with the P.D. for daily driving get extremelly HOT in the summer time and you lose a lot of torque and HP for street driving(and that instant hit) which doesn't happen in the same way with the centrifugals or turbos with the air to air intercooler and placement of the centri. blowers closer to the radiator and not on top of the P.D. intake manifold cooking 24/7 like a roasted chicken. Also, smaller P.D blowers aka 2.1 and 2.3L run hot hooter naturally to produce each pound of boost when compared to bigger 2.9L one because the rotors have to spin faster and harder and heat comes with that and so does heat soak. Also, remember that a centri or turbo will beat the roush on top end usually after 3rd gear will start gaining on them and will pull hard on the roush after that if same boost is considered with this 5 liter engine. This is a 4 valve motor with 32 valves that benefit the most from power and torque that is added in the high rpm range between 4-7k where the High rpm cams are working at its best and powerful range and opening its 32 valves to be stuffed with boosted air from a turbine not a mid range blower that won't provide enough air like it should up there. 2.9L, 3.4L and 4L P.D. are big blowers and a different story but not these small 2.1L and 2.3L ones. They won't provide enough for the 5 liter plataform thus will ROB a lot of HP in order to give your engine HP back, period. These engines like to be spun high and hard so the low/mid. rpm instant boost that the roush and edelbrock provide them with is not going to be effective like a belt driven or exhaust turbine and you might gain a small lead in a race but will end up losing badly as the race goes on.. If we were driving 5 liter pushrod engines that only spin to 5500 rpm and suffer from valvetrain stability after that I would say go for the PD blowers but no, not with the new 5 liter engine, those need paxtons, vortechs and turbos if you want to win races, especially in the highways like they mostly race in europe. I disagree with you!! [/QUOTE]
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