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  1. MysticRob

    MysticRob Active Member Established Member

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    Not unless you have a T-56 6-speed transmission transplanted in it. :beer:
     
  2. 03 DSG Snake

    03 DSG Snake Unknown Cyborg Established Member

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    I used 2 of the washers and installed a new rubber inner shift boot. The rubber boot is tight enough where it will 'pull' the shifter from 3rd to neutral after a few seconds. Either it needs to loosen up a bit or 1 washer would have been ideal. Fine for driving on the street where I can keep my hand on it, but for the road course I need to change something up.
     
  3. MalcolmV8

    MalcolmV8 Well-Known Member Established Member

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    You have amazing patients... or maybe tolerance lol. That would drive me insane instantly.
     
  4. MrCaliKrome

    MrCaliKrome New Member Established Member

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    So after fighting the typical T56 issue of not being able to shift at high rpm over the last year, even though I have a firewall adjuster, I was able to get over to my friend Warren's shop Spot 28 [​IMG] and do the "Anti-Venom" mod.

    We also installed the Steeda double hook quadrant and put Royal Purple Synchormax in the trans because I was really tired of driving a performance car that couldn't shift for sh#t :fm: and was going to leave no stone unturned.

    In hindsight, I wish I would have known about and tried the $3 Anti-Venom "washer" mod first to see if that would have solved the shifting issue.

    Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread! :beer: Glad I took the recommendations to do this on a lift instead of in my garage on jackstands!

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    Warren, ended up using the tranny jack to drop the trans to make it easier to get to the detent bolt to add the two copper washers.
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    We measured the thickness of the two copper washers we were putting on the bolt:
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    Warren already had a bunch of these copper washers at the shop, so we measured to see if they were "M20" which it appears they were.
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  5. D3 Racing

    D3 Racing Freak Show Established Member

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    I know this is old, but I have had my washers sitting in the garage for a couple years and was bored so I slapped two of them in today.

    I didn't read the 2nd half of the pages of this post but I did it with the car on jack stands, used a standard depth 1/2" drive 15/16" socket, swivel, 1 3" extension, and 1 5" extension, and a 1/2" drive ratchet, boom, done.

    Put two washers in Dorman part # 65277

    Still on the stands so no driving time, but the shifter seems to slide right out of gear.

    Car has a firewall adjuster, quadrant, McLeod RXT, RPM built trans with 26 spline and a UPR shifter.
     
  6. 50q's

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    Please let us know how is shifts. Plan on doing this soon
     
  7. 04cobrawhine

    04cobrawhine Member Established Member

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    As long as this is back from the dead..... Anyone ever try this on a magnum? Is it needed?
     
  8. 1sic04cobra

    1sic04cobra Member Established Member

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    I'm going to give this a shot this week as well. Will report back when done.
     
  9. 03cobra#694

    03cobra#694 Want to play a game? Staff Member Super Moderator

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    It will, mine felt the same after I did it and just sat in the car moving the shifter.
     
  10. jblood37

    jblood37 Well-Known Member Established Member

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    Old thread I know, but I just did this mod. This was a night and day difference for me. I have a spec clutch with mgw shifter and every time I tried to put it in any gear it felt like I was hitting a wall. It was so bad I thought something in the trans/clutch was wore out. Now, it goes in much, much easier. Cost me $1.50 from NAPA and 20 minutes on a lift. Do it guys.
     
  11. DisposableHero

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    Mine wouldn't stay in second after using 2 washers.

    I'm about to try removing one.
     
  12. DisposableHero

    DisposableHero Active Member Established Member

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    Ok guys... was able to remove one washer and it's seems to no longer kick out 2nd gear. Was able to do this without moving anything out of the way

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  13. mrspeedy69

    mrspeedy69 W.O.R.D. Established Member

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    I noticed that mine was quite a bit easier to pop out of gear as well. However, I hadn't had problems with it coming out of gear on it's own. Just noticeably easier when I go to shift.
     
  14. 50enzo

    50enzo New Member Established Member

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    just read all bagillion pages. great feedback and info. i know i'm a lil late...BUT got my stock cobra a couple of months ago(23xxxmiles). and easier shifting would help. thanks for the info on such a cheap "mod" :beer:
     
  15. 50enzo

    50enzo New Member Established Member

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    perfect pics man
     
  16. fangs99

    fangs99 Active Member Established Member

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    Bring this back from the dead..... Went to do this mod and the previous owner had alredy done this mod.... Well after feeling defeated for about 10 min wondering what to do I desided to add another washer but this on was as thick as the 2 combined. i'm running 1 thick steel washer and 1 coper washer. Drove the car around normaly and didn't notice much of a diffrence except is can be pulled out of gear easier. But the part that was pissing me off before, I can now powershift the car no problem. I wonder if the there is a diffrence in the detent springs from car to car and thats why some guys only need 1 most need 2 and I needed 3.
     
  17. JRH2592

    JRH2592 New Member Established Member

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    Has anyone tried this with standard washers? I am having a really difficult time finding the M20 copper drain plug gaskets that has been the perscribed fix
     
  18. davidbettencour

    davidbettencour Member Established Member

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    I have to ask the question, where are you located JRH2592??

    The reason I ask is I may have different stores here in California than wherever you may be.

    But I happened to stop in Pep Boys and looking at the M20 and it does look thinner than a standard washer. It looks like the higher the number, the thinner they get.
     
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  19. davidbettencour

    davidbettencour Member Established Member

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    I hope you can see what I'm talking about in these pictures, but there are two washers in each M20 pack and they look a lot thinner than regular washers
     
  20. davidbettencour

    davidbettencour Member Established Member

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    My mistake on the last two post's guys. I only read the M20 part, and not the actual Dorman part number. You can disregard my last two posts.
     

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