Ugh, school shooting in Madison

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I'm actually not completely opposed to universal background checks but that could spiral into further gun control/confiscation measures.

What I'd like to see is stricter enforcement of "felon in possession" of gun charges. Those charges frequently get thrown out first when hood rats get caught stealing cars, dealing drugs or robbing people.

the prob with universal background checks, is that it wouldn't really address the root issue. Since sale or transfer is already illegal to a prohibited person between private parties. Combine this with enforcement of said checks and it is a futile strategy. It will further gun control agenda to private citizens.

But, I totally agree with your second paragraph. First time offense with anything related to a handgun should automatically be life in prison. No second chances, no bullshit. Done.
 

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Muhhh rights....


But seriously, "secure fire arm" laws sound like gateways just like "red flag" laws.

I think if you are trying to drive behavior (responsibility) then it should be on the backside, not preemptive.

But again, when do we see parents of bangers being held accountable for their 14 year old goblins running around looting, robbing and murdering?
Doesn't happen often. Weren't the parents of that Michigan kid who shot and killed fellow students found guilty and imprisoned?
 

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90s trannies were hilarious. They did not take themselves seriously and it was not a gender identity.

There is a 24 hour gas station in Minneapolis affectionately known as "The Gay SA" that was notorious for brawls between gangs of trannies after bar close. I saw many with own eyes. Miss those days.

Indeed. Indeed. It was a totally different sentiment (trannies) back in the day…
 

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The Democrats need to put away the bullshit platitudes and step up if they are genuinely serious about firearms.

Since we know many people will not give up their firearms (voluntarily or otherwise) AND we also know no one is going to confiscate any, offer people serious cash for their arms.

If it means that much to the Dems, take all the money they have sent to other nations for security and protection and spend it here. Take from their pet projects and use it to make substantial offers to firearm owners but no. The party of such guiding light wants to outlaw and make ownership as difficult as possible while spewing as much poppycock as one's mouth can produce.
 

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The problem is they've decided to pack the asylum. I'm sure "Furries" will eventually join LBGTBBQ+++

Not sure what being gay has to do with thinking your a twin soul non-binary tree nymph that goes by zi/zero.... But that's now a thing...

i believe they already are… lol.

i’ve seen gay/lesb peeps that are of sound mind…. the prob comes from the left….

It has spread like a plague… they took over the media, Hollywood, teaching institutions, key positions in government…. basically indoctrinated the new generation…
 

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I'm actually not completely opposed to universal background checks but that could spiral into further gun control/confiscation measures.

What I'd like to see is stricter enforcement of "felon in possession" of gun charges. Those charges frequently get thrown out first when hood rats get caught stealing cars, dealing drugs or robbing people.
There's already back ground checks since 1994 according to Google. I thought it was well before that.

While I understand not wanting a felon to have a firearm, one can argue if the person is free, their rights should be fully restored. If the person is too dangerous to have a firearm, then keep them locked up. I do understand that may cause more crowding of the prisons.

One could argue there should be no rules then someone would say that would allow kids to go buy guns. It's a lose/lose situation.

There is no magic law to stop this. However, imo working to keep fathers in homes and not allow mental illness trans stuff would be huge to lowering all crimes.
 

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the prob with universal background checks, is that it wouldn't really address the root issue. Since sale or transfer is already illegal to a prohibited person between private parties. Combine this with enforcement of said checks and it is a futile strategy. It will further gun control agenda to private citizens.

But, I totally agree with your second paragraph. First time offense with anything related to a handgun should automatically be life in prison. No second chances, no bullshit. Done.
Your second paragraph sounds good on paper, but I think it would backfire much more than you realize
 

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please further articulate… what exactly would backfire?
Brandish, forget to take it out a vehicle and it gets stolen (which is illegal in some states I think), shoot an animal (an actual animal) out of season, carrying into a place you shouldn't are just some of the instances I don't think life or even any prison time is acceptable.
 

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Brandish, forget to take it out a vehicle and it gets stolen (which is illegal in some states I think), shoot an animal (an actual animal) out of season, carrying into a place you shouldn't are just some of the instances I don't think life or even any prison time is acceptable.

Brandish it in a manner not consistent with law = life in prison. No prob with me.

your property getting stolen is not on you. Its a non-issue in reference to what I said.

shooting an animal out of season, its not a gun related crime. Does not apply.

carrying into a place that you shouldnt = life in prison. No issue there.

Life in prison for any gun related crime is fine by me. Its as easy as dont **** around with a gun, unless you want finding out.
 

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please further articulate… what exactly would backfire?

Brandish, forget to take it out a vehicle and it gets stolen (which is illegal in some states I think), shoot an animal (an actual animal) out of season, carrying into a place you shouldn't are just some of the instances I don't think life or even any prison time is acceptable.
@SVT-BansheeMan i wasn’t even going that deep. @ZYBORG I see what you are trying to do but that measure will hit tax payers harder than anything. Putting away that mean ppl for that amount of time ….. who do you think pays for that? Think of the tax increase that would need to ( need is a strong word, I’ll say what the government would deem necessary) to house and support all the new inmates
 

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a potential fix/deterrent to school shootings that does not trample on our Rights and does not give the govt more power into our lives is to:

1 - Train/Arm willing teachers
2 - Place signs outside of the school announcing this new policy is in effect

IIRC, there have been several shooters who mentioned they chose locations b/c they were the easiest/softest targets.

Make schools hard targets and it may cut down on attacks.
 

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@SVT-BansheeMan i wasn’t even going that deep. @ZYBORG I see what you are trying to do but that measure will hit tax payers harder than anything. Putting away that mean ppl for that amount of time ….. who do you think pays for that? Think of the tax increase that would need to ( need is a strong word, I’ll say what the government would deem necessary) to house and support all the new inmates

Im not worried about tax payers pockets. I care about criminals and criminal activity.

Severe punishment would halt a lot of the crime.
 

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i’ll stand up for the 80/90s trannies on this one…. Lol

those trannies might have been trannies, but there was no confusion or movement trying to push whether they were real women (or men)… they simply were their own thing…. kinda like the lady boys of Bangkok… they never purported to be an actual female (or male)…

I wouldnt call this new generation “trannies”…. Its more like a mutation of FREAKS… full fledged mental defector

You're way more into the tranny scene than I am, past and present. They're all mentally deranged misfits to me.
 

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