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  1. nxhappy

    nxhappy Vette Killer Established Member

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    you can ALWAYS re-write a computer. EVEN if the govt stopped the entire operation, there would be a black market for it. I say "good luck mother ****ers"
     
  2. nxhappy

    nxhappy Vette Killer Established Member

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    more like, lawn mowers, and cows hahaha
     
  3. Weather Man

    Weather Man Persistance Is A Bitch Established Member

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    There will always be some who can program, the problem will be parts, if the Feds really do get serious. It will go from many having access, to only the few who don't draw attention to themselves. People keep saying they won't kill off a multi-billion dollar aftermarket, to which I say the greenies embedded in EPA have not a single **** to give about that.
     
  4. FordMoCo21

    FordMoCo21 Member Established Member

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    My tuner is in Venezuela so I don't think he gives a **** about the EPA. Also my city doesn't test for emissions so I don't see how this could even be enforced. Just like other areas that do test, if they started testing, swap the midpipe and stock tune back on to pass, then back to catless and race tune after. EPA can suck my nuts.
     
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    FordMoCo21 Member Established Member

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    Also there will always be good tuners willing to illegally tune if their name isn't going mainstream. And parts that can crack newer cars. All the older cars will always be able to be tuned up to this point.
     
  6. lexustech48

    lexustech48 Ghost Editor-In-Chief Premium Member Established Member

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    Looks like I need to invest in an Ehhch Pee tuner. And my 2011 Shelby isn't going anywhere.
     
  7. 03Sssnake

    03Sssnake TK-421 Established Member Beer Money Bros.

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    looks like we are going to back to carbs :D
     
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    This is why SCT will now be ahead of the game since they already went through all of this and their software is now the only one approved by the EPA, everyone else will have to deal with it now
     
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  9. Papaw

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    If this really happens then the value of classic cars will skyrocket!
    My '65 has a carburetor, point triggered ignition with mechanical advance, and no computer whatsoever, no OBD II port, no smog check required (even in California) and is very mod friendly!
     
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  10. KingBlack

    KingBlack 2018 Fluffer Champion Established Member

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    HELL YEAH BROTHER! Sounds like Eagles and apple pie
     
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    KingBlack 2018 Fluffer Champion Established Member

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    HELL YEAH BROTHER! That classic setup reminds me of the 4th of July
     
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    gimmie11s Well-Known Member Established Member

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    You remind me of a shortened school bus full of crayon eaters.


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    If stupid was a commodity you'd have a nicer garage than Treynor.
     
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    KingBlack 2018 Fluffer Champion Established Member

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    you sound EXTREMELY UNPATRIOTIC right now. Your comment caused an EAGLE to die.
     
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    KingBlack 2018 Fluffer Champion Established Member

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    you mean the one you get on everyday?
     
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    All I hear is fear right now and worse case scenarios. None of which is true. Everyone please do not believe this fake news crap.

    The EPA has been wanting to crack down on emissions since inception this is nothing new in fact it is their purpose. Its not about eliminating emissions thats futile its about reducing it. John Deere and GM were the first to hop on board a few years back but their efforts failed due to some issues they had (monetary sharing from what I heard.) Big businesses stay in business by making profits. When that is threatened they have to do whats best for them. Thats all I can say about that.

    With that said newer vehicles will still be able to be reprogrammed. Despite GM announcing its hard locked pcm's its in the manufacturers best interest. Take ford for example. Many years ago a ford engineer created a very popular custom tuning solution for reprogramming stock ford ecus. At the time it put ford at the fore front of modifications since vehicles were able to be tuned for said changes. This opened up a significant aftermarket following for FRPP. At that time near stock LS1's were destroying all but the most heavily modified ford products. That quickly turned when Ford performance parts flooded the market and as such competition pushed pricing way down as compared to other manufacturers for similar modifications. This opened even more doors as more companies were creating more products as well to support more modifications since there was support. And in return Ford seen more vehicle sales since die hard enthusiast knew they wouldnt be locked down like toyota for example. Ford is a vehicle company their primary concern is selling new vehicles. It wasnt until fairly recently that toyota openly gave away their reprogramming info so their vehicles could be modified as well. Well why did they do that? TRD has been offering things here and there but nothing to the extent of FRPP. Again toyota seen what was going on and wanting a piece of the action as it only benefits them in all areas of the company. This is all possible due to being able to custom tune and drive your vehicle worry free.

    Don't think for a second thats coming to an end. More difficult? Yes. More expensive? Yes.
     
  17. lexustech48

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    Stock up on your Spark Plug anti foulers boys n girls. For emissions of course. Dont want that spark plug getting fouled.
     
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    BlksvtCobra01 Deplorable and Proud Established Member

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    Please provide me a 17 page report of this.


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    gimmie11s Well-Known Member Established Member

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    Lol. Just ****ing el oh el.

    You are as dumb as a chunk of granite.


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