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<blockquote data-quote="*Jay*" data-source="post: 17015548" data-attributes="member: 108453"><p>So sorry to hear about this, it is terrible and unfortunate that you have been put in this situation. You absolutely shouldnt remain silent, if they include you in their conversation or situation dont hold back and stay silent. Be honest and compassionate unless they escalate and become aggressive, then give them both barrels.</p><p></p><p>I have a similar situation in the works with my brother and his oldest daughter who is confused and being deranged by everyone around her that accepts that her being "trans" is right for her. They still havent mentioned anything about it to me and avoid/lie about the subject when I start to ask questions about odd things.</p><p></p><p>Here is a rundown on where we (wife and I) currently are with our situation. During their last visit I heard my brother calling his daughter by a strange and obviously masculine name, he said it was just a silly child thing and alot of kids make up nicknames. I spoke to him about several issues with the choice of said "nickname" and he brushed it and me off as it was "nothing". It never came up again for the rest of the week.</p><p></p><p>Unbeknownst to me (I was inside, they were outside) until a few weeks after their visit in front of my wife and child, her parents and her younger sister, my niece out of the blue screamed "IM GAY". My wife simply stated "this is not the right audience for that kind of talk" and it never came up again in front of either of us. My wife asked her parents what that was about and they told her she was trans and since she wasnt going to transition until she was older that made it ok. She shared a story about a friend of ours that went through a similar situation, apparently they beamed with excitement and asked how she is doing now after his transition. Our friend killed himself because of this and she didnt hold back on all of the issues that it brought onto him before he succumbed to his derangement.</p><p></p><p>She avoided letting me know until after their visit because it would have been the end of their visit. There is a time and place for every conversation but its never going to be in front of my child nor any other. I dont make the effort to call my brother anymore and since he never called me anyways it means we dont talk. We just occasionally text but even that is starting to be one way as he isnt replying much. The wife and I discussed all of this for quite a while and we are just going to be "busy" for the forseeable future, no time for them to visit, no time for us to visit, no more planned vacations. I will agree with everyone here who says that not saying anything is just the same as approving of the behavior. Its not a problem that you can just avoid talking about and have disappear unfortunately but if you can insulate your family from it I absolutely would.</p><p></p><p>If my niece wants to have an adult conversation about her derangement I would ask her mom or dad first for permission and have them present since she is still just a child. Then with nothing but love, honesty and compassion I would talk to her and her parents about all of the problems she is making for herself and the problems she will be sure to encounter. I firmly believe this issue was born from a lack of attention, affection and acceptance towards my niece and I firmly lay that blame on my brother and his wife. This is 100% their fault and the predators she is trying to make like/love her.</p><p></p><p>She was awkward and different (as most children becoming young adults are) and instead of receiving help and guidance from her parents she sought out attention, affection and acceptance from the internet and whatever predators that came across her. They are the parents that let a device raise their children rather than be bothered with parenting. I warned my brother about her being part of an "animation group" years ago because she was dealing in adult themed content at the age of 10 and she admitted this group was not with kids but adults. Again he shrugged me off and said "she will be ok" and that even if he wanted to that he wouldnt be able to stop it and was fine with her unrestricted access to the internet and all its dangers. I told him he was wrong and that he needed to reign that in but here we are. To date I have yet to see any of her "art".</p><p></p><p>Its his and his wifes decision on how to handle the situation with their child, I can only hope and pray that they have the best intentions for their daughter but I have my doubts. I dont have to approve but I also have no say on it until they either invite me into an adult conversation about it or broach the subject in front of me. I will be friendly and loving as a brother and uncle should be. If they drop some more bullshit behind my back or in front of my daughter I will not be friendly, not in the slightest. Best of luck, you arent alone.</p><p></p><p>p.s.</p><p>Glad I waited until the morning and I wasnt drunk to type that out, sheesh.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="*Jay*, post: 17015548, member: 108453"] So sorry to hear about this, it is terrible and unfortunate that you have been put in this situation. You absolutely shouldnt remain silent, if they include you in their conversation or situation dont hold back and stay silent. Be honest and compassionate unless they escalate and become aggressive, then give them both barrels. I have a similar situation in the works with my brother and his oldest daughter who is confused and being deranged by everyone around her that accepts that her being "trans" is right for her. They still havent mentioned anything about it to me and avoid/lie about the subject when I start to ask questions about odd things. Here is a rundown on where we (wife and I) currently are with our situation. During their last visit I heard my brother calling his daughter by a strange and obviously masculine name, he said it was just a silly child thing and alot of kids make up nicknames. I spoke to him about several issues with the choice of said "nickname" and he brushed it and me off as it was "nothing". It never came up again for the rest of the week. Unbeknownst to me (I was inside, they were outside) until a few weeks after their visit in front of my wife and child, her parents and her younger sister, my niece out of the blue screamed "IM GAY". My wife simply stated "this is not the right audience for that kind of talk" and it never came up again in front of either of us. My wife asked her parents what that was about and they told her she was trans and since she wasnt going to transition until she was older that made it ok. She shared a story about a friend of ours that went through a similar situation, apparently they beamed with excitement and asked how she is doing now after his transition. Our friend killed himself because of this and she didnt hold back on all of the issues that it brought onto him before he succumbed to his derangement. She avoided letting me know until after their visit because it would have been the end of their visit. There is a time and place for every conversation but its never going to be in front of my child nor any other. I dont make the effort to call my brother anymore and since he never called me anyways it means we dont talk. We just occasionally text but even that is starting to be one way as he isnt replying much. The wife and I discussed all of this for quite a while and we are just going to be "busy" for the forseeable future, no time for them to visit, no time for us to visit, no more planned vacations. I will agree with everyone here who says that not saying anything is just the same as approving of the behavior. Its not a problem that you can just avoid talking about and have disappear unfortunately but if you can insulate your family from it I absolutely would. If my niece wants to have an adult conversation about her derangement I would ask her mom or dad first for permission and have them present since she is still just a child. Then with nothing but love, honesty and compassion I would talk to her and her parents about all of the problems she is making for herself and the problems she will be sure to encounter. I firmly believe this issue was born from a lack of attention, affection and acceptance towards my niece and I firmly lay that blame on my brother and his wife. This is 100% their fault and the predators she is trying to make like/love her. She was awkward and different (as most children becoming young adults are) and instead of receiving help and guidance from her parents she sought out attention, affection and acceptance from the internet and whatever predators that came across her. They are the parents that let a device raise their children rather than be bothered with parenting. I warned my brother about her being part of an "animation group" years ago because she was dealing in adult themed content at the age of 10 and she admitted this group was not with kids but adults. Again he shrugged me off and said "she will be ok" and that even if he wanted to that he wouldnt be able to stop it and was fine with her unrestricted access to the internet and all its dangers. I told him he was wrong and that he needed to reign that in but here we are. To date I have yet to see any of her "art". Its his and his wifes decision on how to handle the situation with their child, I can only hope and pray that they have the best intentions for their daughter but I have my doubts. I dont have to approve but I also have no say on it until they either invite me into an adult conversation about it or broach the subject in front of me. I will be friendly and loving as a brother and uncle should be. If they drop some more bullshit behind my back or in front of my daughter I will not be friendly, not in the slightest. Best of luck, you arent alone. p.s. Glad I waited until the morning and I wasnt drunk to type that out, sheesh. [/QUOTE]
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