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<blockquote data-quote="thePill" data-source="post: 12515887" data-attributes="member: 119504"><p>3300lbs is nearly impossible, the new hydroformed UHSS safety structure is good for a small chunk as well as the slight downsizing. I just don't see them breaking the 3399lbs mark. They will be closer to 3450, and that's at least a big step in the right direction. I really can't estimate how much of this "Silouette Innovation" lightens and streamlines the car. The Fiesta lost 88lbs just by swapping to Boron and most likely reduced the casting size. I was unaware that Ford was in full swing with this.</p><p></p><p>The mention of a lightweight interior has been thrown around however, interiors are just as Federally mandated as the exterior is. Unless Ford found a way around that... Not likely...</p><p></p><p>As for sales projections, it may not be as much as units per year but units over the lifespan. Fords sales projections are probably long term and global sales will increase the 70k margin slightly. That 70k number is from a 10 year old model, I expect a sales increase with the new model. </p><p></p><p>Another thing, this chassis is used. It probably won't share much with the D2C, but it is used. The R&D cost could have been drastically reduced using the 10+ year old structure as a foundation. We may have to factor in that most R&D was completed in 2004 with the DEW Lite. Also consider if the new DEW is being "down shared" as with the ATS to the Camaro. The Mustang will be the host vehicle for the new chassis... All these things have to be known and considered...</p><p></p><p>What we considered "quality" 10 years ago is industry standard now. I can almost guarantee that the Mustang will still be out classed by the R8 and M3 as far as material quality goes.</p><p></p><p>It almost appears that over the last 20 years, Ford has researched and developed the 2015 Mustang piece by piece. The chassis, CBIRS, the 5.0, the Getrag, the interior tech. The '15 is just a more elaborate parts bin car. No need to start trying to associate it with the one off brand halo cars.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thePill, post: 12515887, member: 119504"] 3300lbs is nearly impossible, the new hydroformed UHSS safety structure is good for a small chunk as well as the slight downsizing. I just don't see them breaking the 3399lbs mark. They will be closer to 3450, and that's at least a big step in the right direction. I really can't estimate how much of this "Silouette Innovation" lightens and streamlines the car. The Fiesta lost 88lbs just by swapping to Boron and most likely reduced the casting size. I was unaware that Ford was in full swing with this. The mention of a lightweight interior has been thrown around however, interiors are just as Federally mandated as the exterior is. Unless Ford found a way around that... Not likely... As for sales projections, it may not be as much as units per year but units over the lifespan. Fords sales projections are probably long term and global sales will increase the 70k margin slightly. That 70k number is from a 10 year old model, I expect a sales increase with the new model. Another thing, this chassis is used. It probably won't share much with the D2C, but it is used. The R&D cost could have been drastically reduced using the 10+ year old structure as a foundation. We may have to factor in that most R&D was completed in 2004 with the DEW Lite. Also consider if the new DEW is being "down shared" as with the ATS to the Camaro. The Mustang will be the host vehicle for the new chassis... All these things have to be known and considered... What we considered "quality" 10 years ago is industry standard now. I can almost guarantee that the Mustang will still be out classed by the R8 and M3 as far as material quality goes. It almost appears that over the last 20 years, Ford has researched and developed the 2015 Mustang piece by piece. The chassis, CBIRS, the 5.0, the Getrag, the interior tech. The '15 is just a more elaborate parts bin car. No need to start trying to associate it with the one off brand halo cars. [/QUOTE]
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