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<blockquote data-quote="L8APEX" data-source="post: 16766615" data-attributes="member: 51947"><p>Reed Timmer got some great videos. He was about to call it a day. Starting watching him at 1 as he was in Wichita. Youtube feed died when the tornado dropped (probablyfor his drone) just hear him screaming "violent tornado!". Just now watched it on facebook, multiple vortices right off the back, weakens then strengthens again, with the lower maybe 5th dancing left and right as it traveled roughly north. </p><p>Drone</p><p>[MEDIA=facebook]id=414615570047040;type=v;user=KAKEnews[/MEDIA]</p><p>Main page </p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://m.facebook.com/reedtimmer2.0?__hwl=1&_rdr[/URL]</p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]X7h6zdlTTeA[/MEDIA]</p><p>Some videos my sister sent. (Our cousin's husband works at Ch 12 so we've been getting feeds from him.)</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=facebook]id=672803233787710;type=v;user=braxtongoertz09[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>This is not all EF3, IF this is what it is said to be... should be brand new homes &lt;3 years old, hurricane hangers to hold the roofs etc have been standard since the 80s, and most homes retrofited in the '90s to have them...</p><p>Now the issue, Those 4-5 homes are flat, that's (typically) EF4 if these are new woodframe construction and have full basements as Andover is an expensive suburb that has very high building standards for tornados after the F5 in '91. </p><p>And if its a F5/EF5 you'd just see the slabs. I've seen that before, It's just swept clean, not seeing that or hearing reports anywhere near 200mph. But even though there are definitely piles that were homes which most assume EF4. My guess is most likely it will be flirting with lower EF3 at &gt;135mph at best.</p><p>It had multiple vortices,(which is a halmark of strong/ violent tornados) and one would have had to get a hell of a boost to get to &gt;165mph (EF4) from at least 125mph perhaps 150, but it had a lot of momentum as well. But the biggest indicator is with EF4 the lawns are covered in the remains, these homes seem to have collapsed into the basements, with their yards fairly clear. So it was enough to take the roof and flatten most/all walls until it fell in (which is rarer unless a car gets tossed into a floor of a nearby home etc, something heavy) good example of why you still get under something sturdy in a basement. My spot for example is under the stairs as it's rwinforced and actualy near the center of my L shaped basement(house is a C facing west) and enclosed by a bathroom and another smaller door as my garage is the sw corner so my cars are likely going into the house if i were to take a direct hit. Now I've never been to my oh crap spot durring a storm, and I've lived here since mid 08. </p><p></p><p>So all things considered from what little I've seen I'd still assume strong EF2 up to EF3 with more widespread EF1-EF0, with 100 structures damaged on just the west side of Andover road in sedgwick county, most of Andover is east of that/another county (Butler), edit, looks like just under 1k structures in the path in butler county in Andover alone. </p><p>From what I saw from the other side of town and from my cameras at work I figured EF2...so like a 5.8 earthquake to a Californian... this isn't one of the wedge monsters we usually have that are etched in my mind that cause absolute hell. </p><p></p><p>St. Vincent De Paul, The Catholic Church that was across the street to the Golden spur mobile home park that was all destroyed and where most of the deaths occoured in '91 is the community shelter.</p><p></p><p>And it was a very dynamic tornado, either on the gas or gas and brakes. Not too wide but it got violent quick and it's path was moving perhaps rotating. Storm wasn't impressive on radar but was rotating broadly starting south of me in Clearwater... I immediately thought of Andover as that's where the '91 F5 touched down before going through Haysville, S Wichita, McConnell AFB and then into Andover, 66 miles before roping out by El dorado.</p><p></p><p>I've never seen this before either,</p><p>A tornado on reflectivity radar as a dot behind the storm. Most of that reflected is probably debris, and it did not line up with the damage, by several miles at times. The radar is 2 miles from my house on the west side of the airport south of Harry and Tyler. So &lt;15mi from the NWS and Radar, it might have been looking under the rotation in the storm as it had a higher base, starting with a horizontal "Bow tie" funnel. Then rapid tornado formation. Tornado was down before the tight tornadic rotation was picked on radar. Not an "impressive" storm. Rotating but nothing looked "tight" </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><img src="https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220430/e5bef50151b6ddd793946eb0f6532d33.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /><img src="https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220430/fa89d9c33f37735da865505d69e4a2b2.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /><a href="http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/626cae1f86967/signal-2022-04-29-22-30-22-144.mp4" target="_blank">Tapatalk Cloud - Downlaoad File signal-2022-04-29-22-30-22-144.mp4</a><img src="https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220430/0fe930c6332a0c990122a74cc82755cb.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /><img src="https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220430/dc3241199853d20cea07b8eada2b28cb.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /><img src="https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220430/2e0fdd529af4367c149134578d7bb525.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Sent from my S22 Ultra using Tapatalk</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="L8APEX, post: 16766615, member: 51947"] Reed Timmer got some great videos. He was about to call it a day. Starting watching him at 1 as he was in Wichita. Youtube feed died when the tornado dropped (probablyfor his drone) just hear him screaming "violent tornado!". Just now watched it on facebook, multiple vortices right off the back, weakens then strengthens again, with the lower maybe 5th dancing left and right as it traveled roughly north. Drone [MEDIA=facebook]id=414615570047040;type=v;user=KAKEnews[/MEDIA] Main page [URL unfurl="true"]https://m.facebook.com/reedtimmer2.0?__hwl=1&_rdr[/URL] [MEDIA=youtube]X7h6zdlTTeA[/MEDIA] Some videos my sister sent. (Our cousin's husband works at Ch 12 so we've been getting feeds from him.) [MEDIA=facebook]id=672803233787710;type=v;user=braxtongoertz09[/MEDIA] This is not all EF3, IF this is what it is said to be... should be brand new homes <3 years old, hurricane hangers to hold the roofs etc have been standard since the 80s, and most homes retrofited in the '90s to have them... Now the issue, Those 4-5 homes are flat, that's (typically) EF4 if these are new woodframe construction and have full basements as Andover is an expensive suburb that has very high building standards for tornados after the F5 in '91. And if its a F5/EF5 you'd just see the slabs. I've seen that before, It's just swept clean, not seeing that or hearing reports anywhere near 200mph. But even though there are definitely piles that were homes which most assume EF4. My guess is most likely it will be flirting with lower EF3 at >135mph at best. It had multiple vortices,(which is a halmark of strong/ violent tornados) and one would have had to get a hell of a boost to get to >165mph (EF4) from at least 125mph perhaps 150, but it had a lot of momentum as well. But the biggest indicator is with EF4 the lawns are covered in the remains, these homes seem to have collapsed into the basements, with their yards fairly clear. So it was enough to take the roof and flatten most/all walls until it fell in (which is rarer unless a car gets tossed into a floor of a nearby home etc, something heavy) good example of why you still get under something sturdy in a basement. My spot for example is under the stairs as it's rwinforced and actualy near the center of my L shaped basement(house is a C facing west) and enclosed by a bathroom and another smaller door as my garage is the sw corner so my cars are likely going into the house if i were to take a direct hit. Now I've never been to my oh crap spot durring a storm, and I've lived here since mid 08. So all things considered from what little I've seen I'd still assume strong EF2 up to EF3 with more widespread EF1-EF0, with 100 structures damaged on just the west side of Andover road in sedgwick county, most of Andover is east of that/another county (Butler), edit, looks like just under 1k structures in the path in butler county in Andover alone. From what I saw from the other side of town and from my cameras at work I figured EF2...so like a 5.8 earthquake to a Californian... this isn't one of the wedge monsters we usually have that are etched in my mind that cause absolute hell. St. Vincent De Paul, The Catholic Church that was across the street to the Golden spur mobile home park that was all destroyed and where most of the deaths occoured in '91 is the community shelter. And it was a very dynamic tornado, either on the gas or gas and brakes. Not too wide but it got violent quick and it's path was moving perhaps rotating. Storm wasn't impressive on radar but was rotating broadly starting south of me in Clearwater... I immediately thought of Andover as that's where the '91 F5 touched down before going through Haysville, S Wichita, McConnell AFB and then into Andover, 66 miles before roping out by El dorado. I've never seen this before either, A tornado on reflectivity radar as a dot behind the storm. Most of that reflected is probably debris, and it did not line up with the damage, by several miles at times. The radar is 2 miles from my house on the west side of the airport south of Harry and Tyler. So <15mi from the NWS and Radar, it might have been looking under the rotation in the storm as it had a higher base, starting with a horizontal "Bow tie" funnel. Then rapid tornado formation. Tornado was down before the tight tornadic rotation was picked on radar. Not an "impressive" storm. Rotating but nothing looked "tight" [IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220430/e5bef50151b6ddd793946eb0f6532d33.jpg[/IMG][IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220430/fa89d9c33f37735da865505d69e4a2b2.jpg[/IMG][URL="http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/626cae1f86967/signal-2022-04-29-22-30-22-144.mp4"]Tapatalk Cloud - Downlaoad File signal-2022-04-29-22-30-22-144.mp4[/URL][IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220430/0fe930c6332a0c990122a74cc82755cb.jpg[/IMG][IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220430/dc3241199853d20cea07b8eada2b28cb.jpg[/IMG][IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220430/2e0fdd529af4367c149134578d7bb525.jpg[/IMG] Sent from my S22 Ultra using Tapatalk [/QUOTE]
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