THE FUTURE COLLECTIBILITY AND VALUE OF OUR 2013/2014 SHELBY GT500s...

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There are certainly some high asking prices out there. I am not sure the transaction data backs that up overall.

Also, holy old thread
 
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I don't believe they can keep up with inflation.

Look back and price it against anything other than dollars, S&P500, nasdaq, treasury bonds, gold, bitcoin.
 

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So what happens to any of these specialty cars when fuel gets too high for the average guy to enjoy their toy......Regular gasoline was just over $4.00 per gallon in 2015 here in Central Florida with the premium fuel required in these cars at about $4.50. Right now, and for the past 3.5+ years we have enjoyed a very reasonable $2.00 or less for regular fuel, or about half the price per gallon in comparison to 4 short years ago (in Central Florida).

How do fuel prices affect the use and demand for gas consuming performance vehicles?....and their values/prices? When fuel is cheap, there are many more people interested in paying and playing, than when fuel is expensive.

Just asking, because it is all about fuel when using/enjoying these cool cars......

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I don’t have as much disposable income as some of the people here, and it would take a huge gas price spike for me to consider driving my car less.

The average consumer is going to feel the pinch, but people who spend 55,000+ on a toy aren’t going to be bothered by an increase in price to play.

Not saying we want a price increase, just that it’s not going to significantly affect the used performance vehicle industry.
 

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I don’t have as much disposable income as some of the people here, and it would take a huge gas price spike for me to consider driving my car less.

The average consumer is going to feel the pinch, but people who spend 55,000+ on a toy aren’t going to be bothered by an increase in price to play.

Not saying we want a price increase, just that it’s not going to significantly affect the used performance vehicle industry.

I feel the same way that you do, but I also drive my car very little, and it is truly a "toy". I do recall some mentioning $5-$6 a gallon fuel in California in the 2015 time period? I am not sure if that was true, but if it was, $10-$12 for just two gallons of fuel won't go far.......I sure hope we do not see some of this type of "fossil fuel" price increases......After the last 3-4 years of low fuel prices, that is proof that the fuel does not need to be anywhere near those much higher prices.....

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I don’t have as much disposable income as some of the people here, and it would take a huge gas price spike for me to consider driving my car less.

The average consumer is going to feel the pinch, but people who spend 55,000+ on a toy aren’t going to be bothered by an increase in price to play.
+1.

I feel the same way that you do, but I also drive my car very little, and it is truly a "toy". I do recall some mentioning $5-$6 a gallon fuel in California in the 2015 time period? I am not sure if that was true, but if it was, $10-$12 for just two gallons of fuel won't go far.......I sure hope we do not see some of this type of "fossil fuel" price increases......After the last 3-4 years of low fuel prices, that is proof that the fuel does not need to be anywhere near those much higher prices.....
"Need" is relative and influenced heavily by state and federal policies. We've enjoyed relatively low energy prices because domestic production flourished in recent years, making us less dependent on foreign sources. It's relatively certain the new adminstration's policies will be less conducive and prices will respond accordingly. The only questions in my mind are how far will the former go and high high will the latter climb...?
 

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"Need" is relative and influenced heavily by state and federal policies. We've enjoyed relatively low energy prices because domestic production flourished in recent years, making us less dependent on foreign sources. It's relatively certain the new adminstration's policies will be less conducive and prices will respond accordingly. The only questions in my mind are how far will the former go and high high will the latter climb...?

Yes, that is back to my original question...........If the buyers/enthusiasts are less, because the fuel goes beyond "fun and toys", the interest and buyers will be less and the market will be heavy, which will drive prices down. I did not want to get into "new administration" but we have seen what has been indicated and it is not "current administration" policies as it relates to fossil fuels......That is undisputed.......So any future guesses of value is not at all certain.......It will all depend upon the cost to operate.....The higher the cost, the lesser the interest....

........and we have not even gotten into the Tax by VIN discussion which I hear is floating around........By VIN, they know the carbon footprint on any of these newer vehicles.

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Yes, that is back to my original question...........If the buyers/enthusiasts are less, because the fuel goes beyond "fun and toys", the interest and buyers will be less and the market will be heavy, which will drive prices down. I did not want to get into "new administration" but we have seen what has been indicated and it is not "current administration" policies as it relates to fossil fuels......That is undisputed.......So any future guesses of value is not at all certain.......It will all depend upon the cost to operate.....The higher the cost, the lesser the interest....

........and we have not even gotten into the Tax by VIN discussion which I hear is floating around........By VIN, they know the carbon footprint on any of these newer vehicles.

R
Sadly, the "new administration" certainly reeks of socialism or it's totalitarian leanings on what they believe and how the population should live their lives. It ain't American.
 

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How is this turd even relavent? We flushed him 4 years ago.
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2020 desirability and ADMs... :D
By the way Norton, I just read the other site about the painted stripes. You pointed out the love-fest about the 2020 and the one-sidedness, so everyone could understand what you were saying. Everyone but one person, who proceeded to, again, state the one-sidedness and glowing praise for the new "supercar" that this person is known for. It just may be possible that they have an extreme lack of self-awareness. It may be a form of a problem.
 

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Who do you think will be calling the shots behind Biden? Yep. And he had his two terms.

.............and it will take a change in regulations and policy to drive fuel prices back up to what they were in 2015 and even higher in the name of "Green".........Cheap fuel means freedom for Americans, freedom to travel, freedom to go where you want to go, when you want to go........and owning the vehicle(s) you want to own (within your budget). I remember the recent last time fuel went high for a length of time, people were selling SUV's, trucks and other gas consuming vehicles that were daily drivers, and the trade-ins were pennies on the dollar in comparison to when fuel was cheap........This will not help the "toy car" market either, it will be a buyers market which is not friendly to the sellers.

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I remember paying the most for gas, under BHObama. $4.50 / gallon, back in 2009 money.
.............and it will take a change in regulations and policy to drive fuel prices back up to what they were in 2015 and even higher in the name of "Green".........Cheap fuel means freedom for Americans, freedom to travel, freedom to go where you want to go, when you want to go........and owning the vehicle(s) you want to own (within your budget). I remember the recent last time fuel went high for a length of time, people were selling SUV's, trucks and other gas consuming vehicles that were daily drivers, and the trade-ins were pennies on the dollar in comparison to when fuel was cheap........This will not help the "toy car" market either, it will be a buyers market which is not friendly to the sellers.

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By the way Norton, I just read the other site about the painted stripes. You pointed out the love-fest about the 2020 and the one-sidedness, so everyone could understand what you were saying. Everyone but one person, who proceeded to, again, state the one-sidedness and glowing praise for the new "supercar" that this person is known for. It just may be possible that they have an extreme lack of self-awareness. It may be a form of a problem.

2020 is not the end all be all. There will/is always something better. The 13/14 has made its mark in history and many things the 13/14 have won't be done in the future.
 

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2020 is not the end all be all. There will/is always something better. The 13/14 has made its mark in history and many things the 13/14 have won't be done in the future.

2013/14's will depmand reasonable prices, are they going to keep up with inflatiom or even make you some money? maybe. depends on the market, the economy and probably most importamtly the car it self. I you have a pristine "0" or low mile ride in showroom condition that is well documented and maintained with the original equipment still n place or one that has been restored to factory condition with a few more miles, they will be worth something. Does it have any "proniance?" are you a famous owner or just Joe Smuck with enough money/credit to snag one? Just like the LS6 Chevelles or the Daytona/Superbirds now.

On the other hand, if you have one that has been in accidents, been ratbagged and on it's 3rd engine and 3rd or 4th transmission then you might as well trade it in at your local used car lot. Iin the end, the buyer dictates what a car is worth, most of us know that they are not normally considered investments, very few make it into the straosphere like those winged cars that they could't give away in the eatly '70's.
 

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