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Discussion in 'Politics Forum' started by Lambeau, Sep 13, 2019.
^^^ flip flopping know no specific party and is politics 101
I don't disagree with most of what Beta O'Cuck said there. But, man I hate that "AR15s are designed to wound" argument. So, wait, are they babby-killing fully semi-automatic weapons of war or are they designed to wound to take two enemies out instead of simply killing one? Make up your mind. Also, the tumble-argument is only valid at certain ranges, which most projectiles do thanks to something called physics.
The main takeaway from this video is this fraud and all around cocksmoker changes positions more than a pivot man at a homosexual gangbang. As we are all aware now, he wants to seize them from law abiding citizens who purchased them legally. This is a far cry from his position last year...
Definitely. They change their views based on the audience. Conservative audience, act falsely bipartisan, sympathetic, and diplomatic. Liberal audience, promise the world.
They even change their accent depending on audience...
Accent, vocal fry, and even language.
There was a running bet on how long it would be until the Latino community was pandered to by the Dems speaking in Spanish. Most self-respecting Latinos that I know blew that off for what it was. Nobody except for an idiot will go "ohhhh he spoke my language, that means he completely identifies with me and I should trust him!!!!"
I've never heard a candidate speak redneck though lol
Au contraire! Those are some of the funniest...
Well shit lol
2 ****ing nutjobs!!! lol
Didn't we hear ole hilldog speak or at least attempt jive?
...yes we did!!! Dang let me find it
That was good one
Colt suspending production of AR-15 for civilians
Potentially interesting conversation piece for the forum...
Many “generic responses” to a confiscation Of particular firearms have been “come get them” or “I won’t turn in anything” etc...
And a growing common response from people has been something along the lines of, “So you’re promoting the murder of military or law officers who try to confiscate?” Or, “if you’re admitting to becoming a criminal, perhaps you shouldn’t have firearms now.”
My hypothetical question is, if some people so quickly mock/judge/vilify others for their willingness to die for what they feel is right.......would they also scoff at those who would die for their right to free speech, religion, assembly? How about an outright elimination of due process, or blatantly violating the rules of search and seizure/cruel or unusual punishment?
I think realistically (and keyword: REALISTICALLY) presenting scenarios is a great way to invoke conversation with people who would so willingly piss away rights.
Arizona gun store's 'Beto Special' sells out in four hours
You really bring a good point to the table.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”― Edmund Burke
Speaking as a person who considers themselves a Patriot and an honorable man, those who mock (to me) don't seem to be familiar with history, US law, and how the USA came to be. They lack the fundamental understanding that we are one election away from despotism. They don't understand that Rights are naturally inherent in all men and the Constitution both acknowledges and protects those Rights. Rather, they believe the government bestows the Bill of Rights upon us and that they are really the Bill of Privileges that can be revoked at any time. It is the literal mindset of tyrants.
They can't fathom that the Second Amendment is held so dear because it is the only thing that codifies among honorable men, that the People hold the power and with that power, the People preserve all other Rights. They are so naive to believe that we are somehow "wrong" in our belief because they don't agree with us (me), not even realizing that they can only voice their opinions because men whom they mock bled/bleed so they can have that Right protected.
The Socialist/Progressives/Liberals/Democrats/Communists need to realize that if they get their way and force their will on everyone, when the tides turn (and they will turn), they will have set precedent and Conservatives/Libertarians/Republicans will return the favor. They already had a taste of it and can't stand it. They played that game while Obama was in office and now that Trump is undoing the Obama era messes using the EXACT methods that Obama was praised for using, they have spent the entire Trump administration trying to impeach him as the have an epic meltdown. They really don't like it when we use their own methods against them.
Their needs to be honest conversation. The problem is, that honest conversation is that the political Right has been compromising for 100 years as the Left gets their way inch by inch. With every inch they gain, freedom lost. It needs to stop.
You've stated publicly that you expect gun owners to comply with your confiscation order.
NY SAFE Act has seen about 4% compliance with Assault Weapons Registration.
CA Assault Weapons Registration has seen only 3% compliance
New Jersey has seen essentially 0% compliance with their magazine ban.
When arguably the most left leaning states in the country cannot get any serious level of compliance with these laws, how do you imagine it will go better for you nationwide when including all the other states with serious gun cultures?
You've mentioned fines as a way to gain compliance, but how would you know who to fine since there's no legal way the federal government could know who has those guns?
If you intend to enlist local law enforcement to help with fines/confiscation I'd also like to point out that Colorado Sheriffs have refused to enforce less egregious gun laws for years and on top of that New Mexico Sheriffs have refused to enforce similar gun laws. These are only two examples of states all around the country where law enforcement has already refused to enforce gun laws. We have to assume that your even more intense proposal will see even more law enforcement agencies not willing to assist.
As far as I can tell, using actual data rather than just "a few people you talked to at a gun show" there's no reason to believe you'll see people comply with your plan. Since it seems clear then that you'll need to step up enforcement attempts, what's your next step when nearly nobody complies, you can't fine people because you don't know who to fine, and law enforcement refuses to help?
The Posse Comitatus Act makes it clear you can't use the military, and police agencies already have no interest in helping. So IF (and this is a big IF) you get elected, why do you think that the nations gun owners won't just sit around laughing at you rather than complying?
No response to that question lol
Some lady in the crowd of one of his rallies in Colorado stood up to him and asked him what she was supposed to protect herself and her children with being as small as she is amd only weighing 100lbs or so. She was even open carrying a pistol on her hip I guess but I didnt catch what his response was.